2025 Novice Chasers

[Imperial Commander]

I seem to remember that Willie said in his early season Stable Tour that “we wouldn’t be seeing Majborough out early but he hoped he would come into his own later in the season” or words to that effect.

So he’s not one I’m currently concerned at not seeing out yet but it is getting to that time of year for a few others!

[BigChaang]

The drift is alarming. But I did read somewhere that he was being targeted at a beginners chase at Xmas. Which makes sense given Lossie had half a season off last year. So that’s not concerning me.

Edit: The Irish Racing video- Willie says he’s ready to run but could wait for a beginners at Leopardstown at Xmas.

Maybe a new Modus Operandus with Willie , to Keep the Younger , Better one's back like Lossie this year ??.

[Run4Home]

It just waiting for ground for a horse of that size starting off chasing. Its all going to be long term with this horse which they think is a GC horse at this age, anything this year will be a bonus you'd think.

The BANC for a horse of that age, profile combined with the trainer and his thoughts on that race for good novices would seem very unlikely and a mad bet to me anyway.

[Craigy14]

If Dancing City wins today and jumps well enough he rightfully should be fav (well other than Ballyburn as we all know).

Race fit rivals who have some decent enough form, sounds like WPM will be disappointed if he doesn’t win as well. Reckon he’ll be cut to 6/1 knowing what the bookies are like.

[Lobos]

If Dancing City wins today and jumps well enough he rightfully should be fav (well other than Ballyburn as we all know).

Race fit rivals who have some decent enough form, sounds like WPM will be disappointed if he doesn’t win as well. Reckon he’ll be cut to 6/1 knowing what the bookies are like.

Not that far ahead of The Jukebox Man though surely? Beat DC comfortably in the Albert and won first time up with most of BP's needing the run.

[ComplyOrDie]

If Dancing City wins today and jumps well enough he rightfully should be fav (well other than Ballyburn as we all know).

Race fit rivals who have some decent enough form, sounds like WPM will be disappointed if he doesn’t win as well. Reckon he’ll be cut to 6/1 knowing what the bookies are like.

Impaire Et Passe & Better Days Ahead (albeit one real rival) both beat horses of similar or better ability than Dancing City is facing today. They should already be shorter, yet they are not.

I think the market has it wrong currently.

Dancing City, on OR's should be 10-15lbs clear today.

Race fitness might be a factor, of course

[Runragged]

Not that far ahead of The Jukebox Man though surely? Beat DC comfortably in the Albert and won first time up with most of BP's needing the run.

Conveniently leaving out the piece of form where Dancing City improved past TJM at Aintree?

You are right though, should Dancing City be shorter than TJM now we have seen the latter over fences and knows he can jump well having landed a graded race? Probably not and swap the trainers round then TJM would be a single figure price. DC was the better hurdler though so could potentially be the better chaser.

[ComplyOrDie]

Conveniently leaving out the piece of form where Dancing City improved past TJM at Aintree?

Luckily for Lobos this festival isn't at Aintree

And where you think he improved past him, I think the track just suited DC better.

[ComplyOrDie]

Inthepocket form there as Ifiwerearichman wins the first at Punchestown! Beat 24 lengths by Inthepocket on chase debut.

[Craigy14]

Luckily for Lobos this festival isn't at Aintree

And where you think he improved past him, I think the track just suited DC better.

I know you’ve mentioned this before about Dancing City and Cheltenham but I just think they gave The Jukebox Man far too much rope on heavy ground and in turn Danny left far too much to do on Dancing City to reign him in on that ground. Yes Stellar Story managed it but he looks another Giggs horse that could go 4m.

Dancing City’s only blot was at Cheltenham and he won all 3 of the big staying Grade 1 prizes.

In regards to the market I suppose a lot depends on Impaire Et Passé as they don’t seem to know what trip, if he comes to the festival at the minute as his prices seem awfully generous imo.

[Runragged]

Luckily for Lobos this festival isn't at Aintree

And where you think he improved past him, I think the track just suited DC better.

Dancing City improved according to RPRs. Admittedly matching the RPR that TJM got at Cheltenham though in my opinion TJM had the run of the race, dictating from the front and kicking on turning for home, making it difficult for anything to make up the gap on the ground. Aintree was fairer ground which made it easier for Dancing City to make it up which he did comfortably even though TJM was still able to race from the best race position (Kyntara who also raced prominent with TJM was 3rd jumping the last before falling, nothing again came from off the pace to get involved). To put it more clearly, in my opinion, conditions favoured TJM a lot more at Cheltenham than it did DC at Aintree. Obviously my opinion is subjective but Dancing City is 3/4 in grade 1's, the Cheltenham defeat on heavy ground his only blip in the grade, whereas TJM is 0/3 and though ran well all three times, he has still been beaten. Wouldn't mind seeing TJM get his head in front in a grade 1 just to prove he can do it. Maybe fences will give that opportunity.

[ComplyOrDie]

Dancing City job done, jumped well enough, compared with some of them others, but form lines put him near Sa Majeste.

Obviously race fitness for Shannon Royale would have counted for a bit, but even so, that performance wouldn't have me making Dancing City any shorter than The Jukebox Man, Impaire Et Passe or Better Days Ahead.

[Hardy Eustace]

Lovely round of jumping. He’s a unit!

[Quevega]

Dancing City job done, jumped well enough, compared with some of them others, but form lines put him near Sa Majeste.

Obviously race fitness for Shannon Royale would have counted for a bit, but even so, that performance would have me making Dancing City any shorter than The Jukebox Man, Impaire Et Passe or Better Days Ahead.

Yep, as per usual we'll see who are the better of the bunch when they start meeting in graded races at xmas and dublin etc.
Normally when shit hits the fans for most peoples antepost tickets.

[Eggs]

….BetFred seem to be holding onto a bit of 10-1 Dancing City (BANC) but generally into a best 7-1.