2025 Novice Chasers

[Kevloaf]

I’d say he’d be better with a lead too. He has a high cruising speed but got some stamina too. Early days as he’s got to stay fit, but he’s put down a marker there.

Interesting to see if he ends up meeting Inthepocket

One of them will end up fav for the handicap

[darlojim]

How many runs is it now for a hcap chase at the fez?

[Odin]

You’d be pleased enough that it was littler nighles rather than a big injury?

please tell me you took the 66s.

Edit: watch that interview with Gordon. That smile

That smile was categorically "stop asking me about how good he is, I'm trying to get him in the handicap!" for me

[JackieMoon33]

You’d be pleased enough that it was littler nighles rather than a big injury?

please tell me you took the 66s.

Edit: watch that interview with Gordon. That smile

Not a bean. I’ve barely had an ante post bet yet. Through the summer I’d had him down as a Turners horse anyway.

[JackieMoon33]

That smile was categorically "stop asking me about how good he is, I'm trying to get him in the handicap!" for me

Given his niggles, they may not want to run him often enough to get the required runs in for a handicap.

[JackieMoon33]

How many runs is it now for a hcap chase at the fez?

Four I think. One less than hurdles. I think they’ll not want to go to the well too often with him if he struggles with niggles.

[Exar Essay]

Four I think. One less than hurdles. I think they’ll not want to go to the well too often with him if he struggles with niggles.

Just the three for the Turners. So 2 more would be doable. I’d be surprised if he was given a competitive mark after that though.

[darlojim]

Four I think. One less than hurdles. I think they’ll not want to go to the well too often with him if he struggles with niggles.

Yeah my thoughts exactly

Be very surprised if he ended up in a hcap

[JackieMoon33]

Just the three for the Turners. So 2 more would be doable. I’d be surprised if he was given a competitive mark after that though.

Ah yes, I keep thinking the open chase requirement.

[Exar Essay]

That smile was categorically "stop asking me about how good he is, I'm trying to get him in the handicap!" for me

Ha. I read it more as “he’s a weapon and the cats out the bag now”.

[Odin]

Ha. I read it more as “he’s a weapon and the cats out the bag now”.

I mean that could also be true but is he really stuffed in terms of getting 145 now if he runs poorly in two Graded races?

I think it's borderline but I can't have that all of King, Nurburgring and Birdie Or Bust have all run to their peak Hurdles mark on chase debuts there...

[Kautostar]

I mean that could also be true but is he really stuffed in terms of getting 145 now if he runs poorly in two Graded races?

I think it's borderline but I can't have that all of King, Nurburgring and Birdie Or Bust have all run to their peak Hurdles mark on chase debuts there...

145 is only relevant to the NH chase

[Odin]

145 is only relevant to the NH chase

Is that confirmed now? I've heard both "limited handicap" for the 2.5 miler and "0-145" from different people?

If it is limited handicap, even more reason for DML to go the 2.5 mile route I'd argue as he'll get a better mark than inthepocket or iberico lord for the McManus team

[Killiney]

Well done JackieMoon33 You've been adamant this is a proper horse from day 1, and I'd say with that evidence, he's definitely one to have onside.

Wouldn't want the deep winter ground as we seen last season, but probably every chance Leopards at Xmas will be fine this year.

yes well done you flagged up months ago as one that may have been forgotten. After today he must come into the Arkle picture. Especially as he drifted in the betting and presumably connections felt he needed the run!

[JackieMoon33]

Firefox - Jack
DML - Walsh
ITP - Blackmore

JP and Gordon could get both their respective Arkle runners with decent jockeys on board. JP’s could still try and be handicapped but I think they’re both good enough to go the graded route.