2025 Novice Chasers

[EnvoiAlien]

Not so sure myself
Could be a classic!!

1 mistake could be the difference, a clear round from both is all I ask for on the day.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Kind of indictative of the mainland just seen a fantastic horse race,2 very good grade one chasers battling it out and afterwards, handstands aintree, kalif aintree and hendo now probably sending his to aintree, all have reasonable logic and im not having a pop at all, all quite understandable but it just makes me feel slightly deflated about it all.

We could have had a very good standard competitive grade 1 mid distance…….oh well!!

[DenmanSacre]

Should have pulled him. Carnage was right ,he's a deep ground specialist.

Thankfully I made the right decision and cashed him for a profit. Couldn't see him beat Maj or SG. Will be a very good race between those two. Cheltenham will suit Maj better than today for sure.

Not sure it will suit Maj more (or less).

2m1 today Vs just short of 2m at Cheltenham so more emphasis on stamina than the Arkle. Leopardstown maybe slightly tougher jumping test. Sir Gino won't let him have a free one up front either.

I can't remember an Arkle I'm more excited for, possibly because we didn't see them face off last year and this might be the only chance we see them race one another. Just let them 2 line up and I'll be happy.

[Lobos]

Maj has a fall in him if he continues to jump like he did there - Nevertheless a very exciting clash in store come March

Willie said he has to shut his eyes when he jumps. Thought he was very good bar a couple. Big engine.

[DenmanSacre]

I was going to mention this on whatever thread it was after the Road to Cheltenham episode this week, but they mention RaceIQ a lot on there like it's the gospel.

They've just given Majborough a jump score of 9.6/10. They've said he didn't lose much speed at his fences and is quick to get up to speed but we've all seen better jumping displays than that so not sure what factors go into the jump score.

[Quevega]

I was going to mention this on whatever thread it was after the Road to Cheltenham episode this week, but they mention RaceIQ a lot on there like it's the gospel.

They've just given Majborough a jump score of 9.6/10. They've said he didn't lose much speed at his fences and is quick to get up to speed but we've all seen better jumping displays than that so not sure what factors go into the jump score.

He got close to 2 or 3 maybe, but the strength in the front end means he loses very little energy IMO.
This must mean the speed is not affected as much as some others might suffer with.

[DenmanSacre]

He got close to 2 or 3 maybe, but the strength in the front end means he loses very little energy IMO.
This must mean the speed is not affected as much as some others might suffer with.

Just be interesting to know what makes up the score. Is it as simple as how quick they get between a point before the fence and after the fence, so the actual jump is less important than the speed you go into and come out of it. The other metrics are easy to understand and useful but when they give a score, I think they should give some explanation of how the score is arrived at (unless I've missed that in a previous show).

I thought he jumped well for the majority of them. 2 down the back he was a bit unsteady on landing but pinged the next and jumped well after. Just not a performance you'd watch and then say it was almost perfect, which the 9.6 suggests (I can't remember them giving a higher score).

[Quevega]

Just be interesting to know what makes up the score. Is it as simple as how quick they get between a point before the fence and after the fence, so the actual jump is less important than the speed you go into and come out of it. The other metrics are easy to understand and useful but when they give a score, I think they should give some explanation of how the score is arrived at (unless I've missed that in a previous show).

I thought he jumped well for the majority of them. 2 down the back he was a bit unsteady on landing but pinged the next and jumped well after. Just not a performance you'd watch and then say it was almost perfect, which the 9.6 suggests (I can't remember them giving a higher score).

Yeah, I agree, all eyes and cameras were on him though, including my own.
I thought he just put down at a couple but was smart enough and powerful enough for it not to matter too much.
Hands and Heels up the run in eased down, and I've not seen the times yet but will be interesting to see how it compares with the handicap coming up.

[Odin]

Just be interesting to know what makes up the score. Is it as simple as how quick they get between a point before the fence and after the fence, so the actual jump is less important than the speed you go into and come out of it. The other metrics are easy to understand and useful but when they give a score, I think they should give some explanation of how the score is arrived at (unless I've missed that in a previous show).

I thought he jumped well for the majority of them. 2 down the back he was a bit unsteady on landing but pinged the next and jumped well after. Just not a performance you'd watch and then say it was almost perfect, which the 9.6 suggests (I can't remember them giving a higher score).

Does this help? https://www.racingtv.com/news/new-ra...ndex-explainer

I'd be flabbergasted if they had anything automatic for the actual technique given it's done off GPS, rather than computer vision for ecample, so looks like it's speed between two points as you say, which could have been a 9.6 if he was maintaining speed despite looking ugly whist doing it?

[DenmanSacre]

Does this help? https://www.racingtv.com/news/new-ra...ndex-explainer

I'd be flabbergasted if they had anything automatic for the actual technique given it's done off GPS, rather than computer vision for ecample, so looks like it's speed between two points as you say, which could have been a 9.6 if he was maintaining speed despite looking ugly whist doing it?

Thanks - that explains it. Shame the only way you see any data is if they tweet it or include it on Road to Cheltenham (unless I've missed it on the RacingTV site). ATR have jumps data for the courses shown on Sky Sports Racing so would have been good to compare them both.

[Quevega]

Does this help? https://www.racingtv.com/news/new-ra...ndex-explainer

I'd be flabbergasted if they had anything automatic for the actual technique given it's done off GPS, rather than computer vision for ecample, so looks like it's speed between two points as you say, which could have been a 9.6 if he was maintaining speed despite looking ugly whist doing it?

I referred to the camera angle previously and Willie said the same after the race.
It's rare for a horse not to get in tight once or twice and that's all he did but the head on camera angle probably made it uglier than it really was.
I thought he jumped most fences perfectly and probably got in close 3 times but never looked like falling. The camera view just made it look that way IMO.
Hopefully Ruby clears this up in Road to Cheltenham.

We'll see Sir Gino in a run out soon and see how he's moved on from his last run.

Both have looked exceptional so far and I'd have Gino as marginal Fav, but not by as much as the betting suggests.

[That Horse]

Possibly a niche reference but Majborough running today reminded me of Jonah Lomu in that semi final against England in the 1995 rugby world cup. The fences were the England team.

[Kevloaf]

That was a great result today

4/5 for Sir Gino is a gift

2 horse market
1 horse race

Majborough will be being asked the question as they round the bend and Sir Gino will already be ahead and cruising

Game over

[AaronLad]

I referred to the camera angle previously and Willie said the same after the race.
It's rare for a horse not to get in tight once or twice and that's all he did but the head on camera angle probably made it uglier than it really was.
I thought he jumped most fences perfectly and probably got in close 3 times but never looked like falling. The camera view just made it look that way IMO.
Hopefully Ruby clears this up in Road to Cheltenham.

We'll see Sir Gino in a run out soon and see how he's moved on from his last run.

Both have looked exceptional so far and I'd have Gino as marginal Fav, but not by as much as the betting suggests.

I think you're being very generous to him.
Hes clearly got a huge engine.
His win yesterday reminded me of el fabiolo,
just a bit more forward, in the way he ran

It makes for a great race and I can't wait for it.

[Muswell]

BDA is a NR