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2025 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Possible but you'd say unlikely as they avoided him at all cost last season. All depends on how Ballyburn looks I'd say. As HDB says, Slade Steel is very adaptable re trip so he can go anywhere.
    Both horses are adaptable and could go anywhere.
    I would say right now both of the horse’s connections would prefer the Arkle.
    Thats how I’m looking at it right now
    The progression of both horses this season may change that of course.

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    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

      Both horses are adaptable and could go anywhere.
      I would say right now both of the horse’s connections would prefer the Arkle.
      Thats how I’m looking at it right now
      The progression of both horses this season may change that of course.
      In the pocket will be aimed at the Arkle for HDB.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        In the pocket will be aimed at the Arkle for HDB.
        Or the Turners. He is owned by Jp and has had a run.

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          In the pocket will be aimed at the Arkle for HDB.
          ‘It was frustrating for him not to get back to the track last season after he made such a promising chasing debut, but he starts this season as a maiden over fences and is still young, so it will be great to get him back on the track. He seems in great order and is working well. We’ll look to start him back in a maiden chase, potentially as soon as next week.​’

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            In the pocket will be aimed at the Arkle for HDB.
            Maybe, maybe not.
            A lot can and will happen this season.
            And entirely possible that the Arkle or indeed the BANC could include more that one entrant from same connections.
            Fair difference between 2 and 3m for a novice chaser.

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            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

              Maybe, maybe not.
              A lot can and will happen this season.
              And entirely possible that the Arkle or indeed the BANC could include more that one entrant from same connections.
              Fair difference between 2 and 3m for a novice chaser.
              And the BANC could be a much harder race with Willie and Gordon having a battalion of potential 3m chasers. The Arkle could very easily end up the better race to target. Can’t let one horse who may or may not take to fences force your hand this early

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              • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                Or the Turners. He is owned by Jp and has had a run.
                Yep,, possibly. He was being aimed the Arkle last season though so maybe they'll follow that through.

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                • I’m backing everything against ballyburn if going novice chasing. I’d fancy the fella for the champion hurdle, but I really don’t think he’s a chaser.

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                  • Here we go, stand up and get knocked down. I fancy Firefox and IEP for arkle. Better days ahead and stellar story for BANC.

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                    • Henry will know not to run from one horse. He's been on the bad end of the stick with Envoi Allen falling in the Turners, and on the opposite side with GDC falling in the same race leaving him to win it. Anything can happen in those novice chases at Cheltenham, especially over the shorter distance. Only takes one bad jump to put them out of rhythm and out the race.

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                      • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
                        Here we go, stand up and get knocked down. I fancy Firefox and IEP for arkle. Better days ahead and stellar story for BANC.
                        I benefited from SS needing every yard of the AB on the new course last year. Think himself & Better Days Ahead might lack a gear or two turning for home in the BANC when a bit of class is required.

                        They’re dour stayers in my book!

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                        • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                          Henry will know not to run from one horse. He's been on the bad end of the stick with Envoi Allen falling in the Turners, and on the opposite side with GDC falling in the same race leaving him to win it. Anything can happen in those novice chases at Cheltenham, especially over the shorter distance. Only takes one bad jump to put them out of rhythm and out the race.
                          Completely agree, add to that, not just novices, he won the Champion Chase against all odds, 1/5 El Fabiolo beat!

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                          • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                            Henry will know not to run from one horse. He's been on the bad end of the stick with Envoi Allen falling in the Turners, and on the opposite side with GDC falling in the same race leaving him to win it. Anything can happen in those novice chases at Cheltenham, especially over the shorter distance. Only takes one bad jump to put them out of rhythm and out the race.
                            It’s not just Henry though. The owners will have a large say too. And last year, with the same two horses involved, they did exactly that; chose the race for their horse only on the basis of where Ballyburn was declared.

                            Their horse was rated 17lb inferior to BB last year too. And Ballyburn’s breeding would suggest the greater scope for improvement over fences.

                            I’d say this year, with less graded races / routes, they may make a decision earlier in the season to avoid finishing up the rear end of Ballyburn time and time again. They could also take in a beginners over the midtrip and then decide which way to go nearer Xmas.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                              In the pocket will be aimed at the Arkle for HDB.
                              Any quotes to substantiate that statement or was it just an opinion?

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                              • Originally posted by Cheltenham Novice Chase View Post

                                Any quotes to substantiate that statement or was it just an opinion?
                                Just my opinion as that was where he was heading last season. Can't see why they'd change unless of course he's not up to standard.

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