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2025 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

    8 of which were before 1960, f**k, we've gone to a whole new level going back that far

    How many in the last 15 seasons?
    How many have tried?? Not many at all.

    As you say we've done this to death before. Fact is though.....5yo DO win the Arkle.

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

      How many have tried?? Not many at all.

      As you say we've done this to death before. Fact is though.....5yo DO win the Arkle.
      5yo used to win the Arkle.

      Since the abolishment of the allowance they haven't done so.

      5 have tried in the past 5 seasons.

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      • It's never really mentioned, but archetypal chaser's don't win the Triumph hurdle very often so I'd mark up Majborough's victory a fair bit on that basis alone. It's futile comparing him to Fakir on any sort of level, be it numbers or which horses they beat and by how far.

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        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

          5yo used to win the Arkle.

          Since the abolishment of the allowance they haven't done so.

          5 have tried in the past 5 seasons.
          5 not very good ones I suspect. Sir Gino and Majborough are very likely to test that stat to the limit and possibly beyond.........if they run in race

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          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

            5yo used to win the Arkle.

            Since the abolishment of the allowance they haven't done so.

            5 have tried in the past 5 seasons.
            The thing here is, how many of the top level 5yo were actually chasers in the making rather than hurdlers. Often the Triumph winner is a hurdler and therefore it's unlikely they'll be going chasing the following year. Most of the 5yo that have gone chasing have invariably been below top shelf material so it's not surprising they haven't managed to win an Arkle.

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

              5yo used to win the Arkle.

              Since the abolishment of the allowance they haven't done so.

              5 have tried in the past 5 seasons.
              How many did you back ?

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              • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                The thing here is, how many of the top level 5yo were actually chasers in the making rather than hurdlers. Often the Triumph winner is a hurdler and therefore it's unlikely they'll be going chasing the following year. Most of the 5yo that have gone chasing have invariably been below top shelf material so it's not surprising they haven't managed to win an Arkle.
                Nail. Head.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                  5 not very good ones I suspect. Sir Gino and Majborough are very likely to test that stat to the limit and possibly beyond.........if they run in race
                  Couple at single figure prices I think but yeah nothing great.

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                  • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                    The thing here is, how many of the top level 5yo were actually chasers in the making rather than hurdlers.
                    No idea, that wasn't the question I was answering

                    Feel free to have a look, I've got a couple of kids to look after now

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      Nail. Head.
                      At the end of last season I said a few times that I think Majborough, Sir Gino and Kalif Du Berlais could be a golden generation of chasers in the future. They may all get to the top at different speeds, but I'd like to think they'll be competing at G1 level over fences at some point.

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                      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                        How many did you back ?
                        Haha I'd have to go back and look.

                        Definitely had Allmankind 'covered' as I was so heavily invested in Shishkin.

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                        • Do we think Ballyburn goes Faugheen Chase next ? PP seem to think so. Thought Willie ruled out Limerick??

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                            No idea, that wasn't the question I was answering

                            Feel free to have a look, I've got a couple of kids to look after now
                            The only reason why I'm responding is so that I don't have to go down and deal with my two

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                            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                              No idea, that wasn't the question I was answering

                              Feel free to have a look, I've got a couple of kids to look after now
                              Not gonna look but would hazard a guess that most of them at some point

                              Allmankind for certain - as you were a fanboy.
                              Haut en Coleurs ? more than likely
                              Saint Sam ? probably
                              Riviere Detel - early season definitely
                              Fakir - most definitely

                              And probably even Blood Destiny last year.

                              They'd be my best guesses anyhow.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                                Do we think Ballyburn goes Faugheen Chase next ? PP seem to think so. Thought Willie ruled out Limerick??
                                Remember that Paddy Power fuck with peoples heads this time every year.

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