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  • Originally posted by Brooksie View Post

    it wouldn't shut me up at all. he's mediocre at best, and if he wasn't riding for his dad he wouldn't be getting a sniff.
    He's had 800 + winners!!

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    • Am I mad to be considering potters charm for the turners?

      I'm strongly considering backing the yellow clay and potters charm against the new lion and final demand at the prices

      The yellow clay and final demand basically have the same form on a line through wingman so that price difference makes no sense.

      The yellow clay also won a much more reliable trial for this race than final demand did.

      Then there's potters charm who twisters did his usual job on and ran into the ground for no obvious reason

      He has Won at the course
      He has won on decent ground
      He has the all important G1 win over shorter

      The new lion is now farcically short. I was quite fancying him when he was 3/1 but he's now 6/4 because he's been put up at every single preview night by almost every panelist on the 3 iv watched.

      basically we have 4 grade 1 winners at the head of the market. But none of them has faced a good rival so we have no idea how good any of them actually are.

      Both the yellow clay and potters charm are double figures on the exchange and they may well be my plays on the day as it stands. I'd rather risk the grade 1 winners with dubious form at double figures than the grade 1 winners with dubious form at 2/1 or shorter.

      How day 1 goes may determine whether i partake.

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      • I think they know they got the race planning wrong with Potters Charm FinalFurlong91 although saw Willie mention that The New One got beat in the same race on the way to winning the Ballymore.

        I really James's Gate, and feel he's being overlooked, like City Island was before winning this race.

        I think the race is seriously lacking. I think the top 2 in the market are vulnerable.

        Final Demand may end up being the best of them, over fences but not convinced he will win the race on decent ground. In a bog, he'd probably go better.

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        • Kiss Will is the wild card probable entry in the Turners, he could be anything or nothing. His running style in his maiden probably lent itself more to the Supreme than the Turners but he’s a dangerous dart given the pace he’s shown to have if he can switch off in the pocket & travel comfortably mid race.

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          • Workahead being the main market beneficiary of the negative reaction to Paddy being on Salvador Mundi is hilarious when you consider how much Rachel Blackmore has regressed in the past year or two as a rider.

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            • Originally posted by luisgarciaisgod View Post
              Workahead being the main market beneficiary of the negative reaction to Paddy being on Salvador Mundi is hilarious when you consider how much Rachel Blackmore has regressed in the past year or two as a rider.
              Great that owner has been loyal to her and given her the ride on Murcia over PT though. Love that.

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              • So is Final Demand going to Switcheroo to the Albert then ??

                The New Lion will go odds on if he does.

                Can see it happening.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                  Great that owner has been loyal to her and given her the ride on Murcia over PT though. Love that.
                  People who have backed Murcia won't love it mind...

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                  • Originally posted by luisgarciaisgod View Post

                    People who have backed Murcia won't love it mind...
                    Why???? She's a super big race jockey without a doubt. Just hasn't had the right ammo yet this season. I'd have no worries at all her being on mine.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      So is Final Demand going to Switcheroo to the Albert then ??

                      The New Lion will go odds on if he does.

                      Can see it happening.
                      Highly doubt it myself

                      Final Demand is over there already and as far as im aware his tues/wed runners travel first followed by the thurs/fri horses few days later.

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                      • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                        Highly doubt it myself

                        Final Demand is over there already and as far as im aware his tues/wed runners travel first followed by the thurs/fri horses few days later.
                        Cheers Darlo. Very reassuring.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          Why???? She's a super big race jockey without a doubt. Just hasn't had the right ammo yet this season. I'd have no worries at all her being on mine.
                          I agree.

                          Looking forward to her being on board, personally.

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                          • Still think Yellow Clay is the most likely to be redirected to Bartlett

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                              Why???? She's a super big race jockey without a doubt. Just hasn't had the right ammo yet this season. I'd have no worries at all her being on mine.
                              I don't doubt she's a big race jockey but she's seriously regressed over the last 12 months

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                Why???? She's a super big race jockey without a doubt. Just hasn't had the right ammo yet this season. I'd have no worries at all her being on mine.
                                the drop off from Townend to Rachel is absolutely massive

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