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  • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

    Thanks for the post mate. I've kind of taken that advice.

    A slight saviour was that if Salvator Mundi won the supreme, I'd have pretty much guaranteed a winning festival. This allowed me to adjusted my position on him and have 25pts on Kopek at NRNB on the Supreme.

    I have put Kopek in a couple of multiples after Sunday but his price has obviously gone now.
    I was praising you the other week for solid betting, and now you've let me down by going so heavy on of all things "Novice fucking hurdlers with multiple options"
    Surely there are better selections in other categories to throw your weight behind ?

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

      I was praising you the other week for solid betting, and now you've let me down by going so heavy on of all things "Novice fucking hurdlers with multiple options"
      Surely there are better selections in other categories to throw your weight behind ?
      I thought he was always massively over priced and thought he'd go off the short price favourite, so I was half right!

      I'd also chatted a few times with one of the lads who owns him on X and that just added to my confidence. Salvator Mundi being touted as the Supreme horse meant I only thought he had one target.

      In hindsight, I should have covered the Supreme but every time I opened b365 that 20/1 Turners price was staring right back at me

      I had him in 103 multiple bets on B365, and only 2 of them are for the Supreme. Individually those bets weren't for huge stakes but they have mounted up. It's fair to say, I may have got carried away!

      I'm not sure I'll do things too much different in the future. Maybe an 80/20 split next time.

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      • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

        I thought he was always massively over priced and thought he'd go off the short price favourite, so I was half right!

        I'd also chatted a few times with one of the lads who owns him on X and that just added to my confidence. Salvator Mundi being touted as the Supreme horse meant I only thought he had one target.

        In hindsight, I should have covered the Supreme but every time I opened b365 that 20/1 Turners price was staring right back at me

        I had him in 103 multiple bets on B365, and only 2 of them are for the Supreme. Individually those bets weren't for huge stakes but they have mounted up. It's fair to say, I may have got carried away!

        I'm not sure I'll do things too much different in the future. Maybe an 80/20 split next time.
        Yep I feel for the guys that go hard at some.
        It seems everyone was lulled into the splitting of these top novices.

        But in hindsight, once he was being backed so heavy for the 2 mile grade 1 at Dublin, it was madness not to even lay into the NRNB for the supreme - odds available before the race.
        Even if they intended on splitting them, any injury to Salvator and he'd have likely switched anyhow.

        Same for Final Demand bartlett backers.

        The NRNB availability around Dublin is a godsend but most of us took our eye off the ball.

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        • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

          I thought he was always massively over priced and thought he'd go off the short price favourite, so I was half right!

          I'd also chatted a few times with one of the lads who owns him on X and that just added to my confidence. Salvator Mundi being touted as the Supreme horse meant I only thought he had one target.

          In hindsight, I should have covered the Supreme but every time I opened b365 that 20/1 Turners price was staring right back at me

          I had him in 103 multiple bets on B365, and only 2 of them are for the Supreme. Individually those bets weren't for huge stakes but they have mounted up. It's fair to say, I may have got carried away!

          I'm not sure I'll do things too much different in the future. Maybe an 80/20 split next time.
          103 multiples just with KDB included makes my head spin. I thought my multiple numbers used to be high but I'm a fucking amateur it would seem!

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          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

            Yep I feel for the guys that go hard at some.
            It seems everyone was lulled into the splitting of these top novices.

            But in hindsight, once he was being backed so heavy for the 2 mile grade 1 at Dublin, it was madness not to even lay into the NRNB for the supreme - odds available before the race.
            Even if they intended on splitting them, any injury to Salvator and he'd have likely switched anyhow.

            Same for Final Demand bartlett backers.

            The NRNB availability around Dublin is a godsend but most of us took our eye off the ball.
            I did Kopek/Final Demand double the night before the DRF. They'd both need to win to get my money back so all isn't lost i suppose!

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            • Was anything ever said from connections about where Kopek would end up at Cheltenham before last week?
              I don’t recall anything being said.

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              • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                103 multiples just with KDB included makes my head spin. I thought my multiple numbers used to be high but I'm a fucking amateur it would seem!
                Haha, winning big money goes to some people's heads clearly

                TBF they are bonkers numbers of multiples Faugheen_Machine - you multiple machine

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                • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
                  Was anything ever said from connections about where Kopek would end up at Cheltenham before last week?
                  I don’t recall anything being said.
                  I think privately they'd said Turners but I don't think anything was public

                  That's me guessing on second hand info as well, I didn't hear anything myself - just from people I trust - and it turned out to be wrong

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                  • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
                    Was anything ever said from connections about where Kopek would end up at Cheltenham before last week?
                    I don’t recall anything being said.
                    I'm just hoping it's a ruse to get a better price for the turners

                    Although we all know apart from JP Willie dictates where they go

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                      I think privately they'd said Turners but I don't think anything was public

                      That's me guessing on second hand info as well, I didn't hear anything myself - just from people I trust - and it turned out to be wrong
                      Cheers
                      Was just wondering cos looking at my bets I did WTAF for kopek,Kaid and Kel Histoire all for both races, before their First run,as I had no idea where they might turn up, and still didn’t last Friday.
                      Of course I then lose some, but always a chance something may go in my favour, and not exactly life changing anyway
                      Just intrigued cos of the general consensus.

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                      • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                        Cheers
                        Was just wondering cos looking at my bets I did WTAF for kopek,Kaid and Kel Histoire all for both races, before their First run,as I had no idea where they might turn up, and still didn’t last Friday.
                        Of course I then lose some, but always a chance something may go in my favour, and not exactly life changing anyway
                        Just intrigued cos of the general consensus.
                        Yeah, I was saying the same to jono last week

                        I think I got lucky with KDB as I'd missed the original price, so took any race


                        No set rule though going forward, we learn and have to make a call on a horse-by-horse basis .... a lot of times we get it right, the times we don't stick out (generally speaking)

                        If you went 'any race' you'd often lose a lot of value anywhere compared to half-stake and double-backing in my experience - especially with cashout

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                        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                          Yeah, I was saying the same to jono last week

                          I think I got lucky with KDB as I'd missed the original price, so took any race


                          No set rule though going forward, we learn and have to make a call on a horse-by-horse basis .... a lot of times we get it right, the times we don't stick out (generally speaking)

                          If you went 'any race' you'd often lose a lot of value anywhere compared to half-stake and double-backing in my experience - especially with cashout
                          I'd backed 1pt 25-1 both races. Don't like doing that with many horses, obviously.

                          But Hills were 14-1 WTAF any race - before his maiden.

                          Made it an easy decision.

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                            Haha, winning big money goes to some people's heads clearly

                            TBF they are bonkers numbers of multiples Faugheen_Machine - you multiple machine
                            The funny thing is, I've probably done less since hitting my big one. I've taken the view that it's not going to happen twice in my life time

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                            • ….notice Spectre put Kopek up for Supreme at 25-1 in the June Yankee but it doesn’t look like there’ll be much to go with it.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                Yeah, I was saying the same to jono last week

                                I think I got lucky with KDB as I'd missed the original price, so took any race


                                No set rule though going forward, we learn and have to make a call on a horse-by-horse basis .... a lot of times we get it right, the times we don't stick out (generally speaking)

                                If you went 'any race' you'd often lose a lot of value anywhere compared to half-stake and double-backing in my experience - especially with cashout
                                Yeah, because of funds I’ve had to do it a bit differently this year. Been backing small in a fair few wtaf with the intention of topping up as the season progresses(if I like what I’ve seen) and the funds issue changes. Some I’ve managed to get on each way some just win because of odds. And some I will wait till the day itself.
                                And of course I’ve lost some.
                                But overall I’m quite happy with it and may well look at doing similar next year.

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