2025 Novice Hurdlers

[YoungHustler]

If Final Demand drops down to the Turners, what is Mullins plan B in the Albert Bartlett? Not sure myself.

Yep, that's why I'm hoping he keeps those 3 apart as he'll very likely have 3 winners imo.

[riccirich]

He was keen today
Has to have a decent pace
Be surprised if he stepped up

They could just set a good pace in the turners with one of they're other runners if they really want him in that race.

And so it begins again......

[Quevega]

B365 already greyed out Kopek turners bets

[Lobos]

B365 already greyed out Kopek turners bets

Cunts

[TigerRolllllll]

Not sure if been mentioned but owners of Final Demand also have Jet Blue already for spuds race

Diff colours confusing

[Exar Essay]

Not sure if been mentioned but owners of Final Demand also have Jet Blue already for spuds race

Diff colours confusing

And his other owner has Fishery Lane that Willie has already name checked the race for.

[Speedy17]

Not sure if been mentioned but owners of Final Demand also have Jet Blue already for spuds race

Diff colours confusing

Appreciate that but the difference is Final Demand would win the AB and the French horse has no chance.

[DenmanSacre]

Comparison of the Novices to the Irish Champ Hurdle, more to see what the early pace was like for KDB (going off the RTV splits in real time so the sectionals tomorrow may show different):

1f: 16.73 15.47
2f: 14.29. 14.26
3f: 14:59. 13.55
4f: 15:16. 14.16
5f: 15:24. 13.96
6f: 14.95. 14.67
7f: 14.85. 14.14
8f: 15:28. 14.13
9f: 15.43. 14.81
10f: 14.91. 15.83 Lossiemouth fell and it became a farce
11f: 15.05
12f: 14.62
13f: 15.16
14f: 13.34
15f: 14.43
16f: 15.06

One run more like a Supreme and the other mare steady like a Turners.

[AaronLad]

B365 already greyed out Kopek turners bets

They'll be paying them out in march

[FinalFurlong91]

They'd much prefer the strong early pace for him I'd say

Seems to have a very high cruising speed

I reckon he's going to bolt up in the supreme myself

Mundi is way off what's needed on RPRs. Only 138 last time. Saxons stats suggest that's just not close to being good enough.

Can't have him at all myself

Kopek sets the standard, followed by romeo coolios run at christmas

Romeo has the course form but to me Kopek looks by a considerable distance the best novice hurdler in Ireland. He is a banker in the supreme. In the turners there's always the chance he will pull his chance away.

[CJW]

It's safe to say Kopek will win whatever race he goes for, I can't see a issue in either race. Will just have to wait and see.

No competition in either race for me.

[Lobos]

It's safe to say Kopek will win whatever race he goes for, I can't see a issue in either race. Will just have to wait and see.

No competition in either race for me.

Certainly more competition in the Turners with TNL and potentially FD. Supreme definitely looks the weaker of the two races on paper.

[DenmanSacre]

They'd much prefer the strong early pace for him I'd say

Seems to have a very high cruising speed

I reckon he's going to bolt up in the supreme myself

Mundi is way off what's needed on RPRs. Only 138 last time. Saxons stats suggest that's just not close to being good enough.

Can't have him at all myself

Kopek sets the standard, followed by romeo coolios run at christmas

Romeo has the course form but to me Kopek looks by a considerable distance the best novice hurdler in Ireland. He is a banker in the supreme. In the turners there's always the chance he will pull his chance away.

The pace wasn't overly strong today though. Slightly keen before the first but he only got keen when the faller went to the front before the bend and he was just going to well for the rest of them. Paul got him back where he wanted him quickly enough.

He is the best novice though, followed by Final Demand.

[Lobos]

Looking at both the Supreme and Turners, do we think there could be more pace in the latter ??

[FinalFurlong91]

The pace wasn't overly strong today though. Slightly keen before the first but he only got keen when the faller went to the front before the bend and he was just going to well for the rest of them. Paul got him back where he wanted him quickly enough.

He is the best novice though, followed by Final Demand.

I'd have the new lion tied with final demand for 2nd

Both very impressive winners

I might try to get the new lion covered at some point. The Challow curse has to be put to bed at some point. He really didn't look short of pace, something other challow winners havent had enough of.