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2025 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by Speedy17 View Post

    Yeah, just proves a clear difference in Trainer ability/targeting between NTD and Skelton.
    I agree the two father and son combos have tried to nick cheap prize money before the Irish battalions arrive. I can’t think that this would have been the target for either and they’ve run accordingly. It’s a long season and those with real novice hurdle festival aspirations tend not to be having their 5th/6th run come the festival these days. At least Skelton is giving it a go and not waving the white flag before we even get there. He is being campaigned like it’s all about March for him and it wouldn’t be the worst thing for racing if he was rewarded imo. Obviously this forum wants one of Willies to win which is looking increasingly likely I’d say and I completely understand that but the festival desperately needs Hendo and Skelton to be competitive and I hope TNL can run a huge race in March.

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    • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

      I agree the two father and son combos have tried to nick cheap prize money before the Irish battalions arrive. I can’t think that this would have been the target for either and they’ve run accordingly. It’s a long season and those with real novice hurdle festival aspirations tend not to be having their 5th/6th run come the festival these days. At least Skelton is giving it a go and not waving the white flag before we even get there. He is being campaigned like it’s all about March for him and it wouldn’t be the worst thing for racing if he was rewarded imo. Obviously this forum wants one of Willies to win which is looking increasingly likely I’d say and I completely understand that but the festival desperately needs Hendo and Skelton to be competitive and I hope TNL can run a huge race in March.
      Not like the The yellow Clay?
      Think he’s best I’ve seen from Ireland, so far anyway

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      • I’m loving the yellow clay. Can’t understand why price is so bid for turners. Gordon will be thinking he’s got this one in the bag

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        • Likewise Romeo for the supreme

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          • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
            Likewise Romeo for the supreme

            Just done the double

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            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

              Not like the The yellow Clay?
              Think he’s best I’ve seen from Ireland, so far anyway
              Yes I do

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              • Laafi runs tomorrow against Anzadam

                Might go unnoticed, but its a 105-rated flat horse that ran a debut RPR of 134 over hurdles and has a supreme entry

                If it gets anywhere near Anzadam, then could look a good bet at 50s
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                • I like the yellow clay but think the lawlors wasn't a great renewal.

                  Romeo coolio nice horse.

                  Two winners this year from last years bumper potentially, could be a reach though..

                  That drf race cant come soon enough!

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                  • Danny Mullins' 1-2-3 novice hurdles at Willies.

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                    • Reflecting on the defeat of Potters Charm, Nigel Twiston-Davies said: “It’s a little disappointing, but he will be better at the Festival.

                      “I regret bringing him and we weren’t going to bring him here. We brought him because we thought it was a weak race and he wasn’t at full capacity.

                      “You will see a better horse in March and we’ll be sticking at two and a half miles.”


                      Nigel Nigel.

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                      • Sadly I think the brief emergence of the UK novice hurdlers has probably already fizzled out, even before the Dublin festival when I think it will become a distant memory.

                        Up the juveniles though, still looking good in that department because the Irish have looked much of a muchness so far.

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                        • Possibility for another insight into the Kaid form today with Kalix and Krak (3rd and 4th in the Xmas maiden) both running in the 3pm maiden at Naas. Koktail obv didn’t do much for it yesterday - if you’re a Kaid fan then I guess you’ll pin it on Henry’s current form.

                          Kalix was fairly well supported at Xmas and I think (from post race comments) they were surprised he didn’t give a better account of himself. Did bash one pretty hard about 3 out which wouldn’t have helped.

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                            Sadly I think the brief emergence of the UK novice hurdlers has probably already fizzled out, even before the Dublin festival when I think it will become a distant memory.

                            Up the juveniles though, still looking good in that department because the Irish have looked much of a muchness so far.
                            Regent's Stroll to give them something to think about in the Supreme

                            Yes, I keep banging the drum, but he's still 50/1.

                            I was looking at the market in the early hours of this morning on the exchanges, and I couldn't find a genuine British representative that I think Regent's Stroll wouldn't beat. Probably not saying much for the division, but IF Regent's Stroll is the best of the British over 2m he's not going off 50/1, that's for sure.

                            Looking at the actual market you've got horses going straight there off the back of a maiden win at 3rd fav

                            The plan for him seems to be dropping back down to 2m and I imagine he'll have another run pre festival. IF he wins that Nicholls must be looking at the division and he can't be thinking it's overly strong on what we've seen.

                            Romeo Coolio has the best form in the book, but even he's been beat this season.

                            Sorry Quevega I've quoted you, and I know you already think Regent's Stroll is a big old dopey bastard but I feel he's still hugely overpriced and I'm hoping for a serious performance next time out. Maybe even one that hits the all important 150+ RPR. I think he's capable of that.
                            Last edited by ComplyOrDie; Yesterday, 09:13 AM.

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                            • I’m surprised Kopek’s price hasn’t contracted after yesterday’s hurdle results. Kawaboomga giving it a boost with his win and the Turners ante post second fav (Potter’s) getting exposed at Cheltenham.

                              Of those prominent in the betting:

                              The New Lion - has Skelton really stumbled upon a superstar - or is it the traditional British hype fuelled by a classic cocky ride from Harry Skelton against poor rivals
                              Final Demand - does Willie send a potential Turners winner to debut over 2m5f at Limerick - I don’t think he does
                              The Yellow Clay - his Lawlors win was more a trial for the AB and I suspect that’s where he will head, esp if Kopek impresses at DRF
                              Kawaboomga - already beaten him
                              Potter’s Charm - exposed yesterday
                              Sixmilebridge - can’t see it
                              James’s Gate - of the above, the one I’d say most likely to be a factor but doubts if he will even run in this or try and take advantage of his h’cap mark
                              Best of the rest are all Willie’s and likely to be second/third string runners

                              No doubts about jockey bookings - Paul will ride Salvator in the Supreme leaving Kopek for the Turners.
                              Stable vibes always been very strong, Willie’s quote about ‘saving him for Xmas’ sticks in my mind, like you leave your biggest present to last because you know it’s the best.
                              Won on debut despite not jumping great (and the Patrick factor) which the stable don’t seem concerned about.

                              I think he will sit behind Kaid next weekend and pass him late on and go fav for the Turners. The current 10/1 (or 8/1 with the NRMB insurance) seems a gift. Only 6 days left to take advantage.

                              Obv just my thoughts and and some generalisations/assumptions included!

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                              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                                Regent's Stroll to give them something to think about in the Supreme

                                Yes, I keep banging the drum, but he's still 50/1.

                                I was looking at the market in the early hours of this morning on the exchanges, and I couldn't find a genuine British representative that I think Regent's Stroll wouldn't beat. Probably not saying much for the division, but IF Regent's Stroll is the best of the British over 2m he's not going off 50/1, that's for sure.

                                Looking at the actual market you've got horses going straight there off the back of a maiden win at 3rd fav

                                The plan for him seems to be dropping back down to 2m and I imagine he'll have another run pre festival. IF he wins that Nicholls must be looking at the division and he can't be thinking it's overly strong on what we've seen.

                                Romeo Coolio has the best form in the book, but even he's been beat this season.

                                Sorry Quevega I've quoted you, and I know you already think Regent's Stroll is a big old dopey bastard but I feel he's still hugely overpriced and I'm hoping for a serious performance next time out. Maybe even one that hits the all important 150+ RPR. I think he's capable of that.
                                Not just the best of the British he could be the only of the British. There’s Roysse who looks like a complete nut job and what ….HMS President . lulamba backers should hope and prey that Salvador stays sound because from what I’ve seen of EID and from what I’ve seen of this years novices it would be very reasonable if connections felt that beating EID was a harder task than any of the novices in receipt of 10 pounds.

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