2025 Novice Hurdlers

[DenmanSacre]

Just with Valgrand dragging that form down I can't get on board, but respect the pick - if he was a big price I wouldn't be so quick to over look him

Just an easy one ante post to not have to consider for me personally, as of now anyway...

Yeah I've not backed him for the Turners or Supreme. Just think there will be better horses at that trip but they've campaigned him well to win a grade 1 already.

[Runragged]

Valgrand was trying and got broken by PC. That's why they have turned to handicaps. Think it is WTD that is making the difference at the yard. I believe it was his idea to drop down to 2m for the Formby last time, clearly knows you need to have 2m form to win a Turners! I reckon he knows you need an RPR in the 150+ as well prior to the Festival to have the requisite experience, hence another run. Good trainers know to fit their horses into the trends...

[Kevloaf]

Valgrand was trying and got broken by PC. That's why they have turned to handicaps. Think it is WTD that is making the difference at the yard. I believe it was his idea to drop down to 2m for the Formby last time, clearly knows you need to have 2m form to win a Turners! I reckon he knows you need an RPR in the 150+ as well prior to the Festival to have the requisite experience, hence another run. Good trainers know to fit their horses into the trends...

Hahaa, very solid counter points

The trends don't lie!

[AaronLad]

Ah see now with Potters....if they couldn't win with The New One, they ain't winning with this donkey

Next you'll be telling me to back Jonjo horses

But the new one won the ballymore kev

[Wayward Lad]

Doing that cos it's the only chance he has of winning a race



NTD should not have any horses at single figures for a festival race

Neither should STD


They are the facts.

Good thing he’s trained by WTD then eh

[Carnage at Taunton]

Just with Valgrand dragging that form down I can't get on board, but respect the pick - if he was a big price I wouldn't be so quick to over look him

Just an easy one ante post to not have to consider for me personally, as of now anyway...

So we noticed

[Carnage at Taunton]

Good thing he’s trained by WTD then eh

Yes, and I get the feeling things are changing a bit in that yard.

[AaronLad]

The classic novice hurdle at Cheltenham on Saturday
Can it be as good as the 2013 version? Pretty impossible to top that edition with a view to the cheltenham novice hurdles though.

The new one went off slight odds on against future gold cup winner coneygree and at fishers cross, it turned in to a staying contest and at fishers cross caught the new one on the run in coming clear of coneygree.

At fishers cross went on to win the albert bartlett
The new One went on to win the Neptune (turners)

This season sees Potters charm also from the twiston davies yard like the new one. One of the main contenders for the turners.
I've been keen on Bill joyce for the Albert bartlett for a while now and his path has been very similar to the oneils AB horse from last season, jonnywho. Bill joyce is just better though.

I don't think Bill joyce can beat Potters charm, I just think he's so classy. I do though think he can test him and if there is any lack of stamina from Potters charm he'll be the one to take advantage of this.

It's not a form related double just yet, but it's got a chance of becoming a nice looking one by Saturday evening

Potters charm 7/1
Bill joyce 33/1

271/1

[ComplyOrDie]

Potters Charm declared for the Grade 2 on Saturday. Runs with a penalty.

Was hoping they were going to go straight there, but can understand striking whilst the iron is hot mentality for such a yard!

[AaronLad]

Potters Charm declared for the Grade 2 on Saturday. Runs with a penalty.

Was hoping they were going to go straight there, but can understand striking whilst the iron is hot mentality for such a yard!

Faugheen was the last horse to win the Ballymore/turners having not raced in the same calendar year.

Id take him running on Saturday more positively than negatively.

[ComplyOrDie]

Faugheen was the last horse to win the Ballymore/turners having not raced in the same calendar year.

Id take him running on Saturday more positively than negatively.

Bill Joyce running too, that will give us a nice form line to The New Lion as well.

[Fouroverthrutwo]

Couldn't see a thread for the Mare's Novice Hdl - What are people's thoughts on Familiar Dreams for the festival? Decent bits of bumper form to 6.5 and The Yellow Clay to name but two. Currently 25/1. Maybe a bit of value if she turns up there?

[Quevega]

Couldn't see a thread for the Mare's Novice Hdl - What are people's thoughts on Familiar Dreams for the festival? Decent bits of bumper form to 6.5 and The Yellow Clay to name but two. Currently 25/1. Maybe a bit of value if she turns up there?

Spent an hour on that yesterday
very interesting different form
did my head in
The nrnb prices didn’t interest me but might back it at weekend
I assume declared now
smashed winters fog also

[Quevega]

Not declared

[darlojim]

Keeping in true Lobos style

Koktail Divin is being absolutely smashed up ACROSS THE BOARDS in the Turners

(blue in 9 spots - 7 tinpotters, pp/bf the other)