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2025 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
    I wonder if Enabler will end up in the bartlett after all ?
    JackieMoon33 ?
    Looking at Gigginstown entries in the Bartlett he looks their most likely runner to me.
    Could have dropped on again.
    Backed him anyway at mad prices in betfair
    His entries have constantly confused me all season, even at DRF.

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    • Originally posted by Durham Edition View Post

      Craigy14 looks like it was even a reply to you
      I need to get more sleep!

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      • Would a win in the Triumph Hurdle add anything to Palladium stud fee ?

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        • Mundi getting a sole entry in the Supreme from Scattergun Willie is a huge shot in the arm for backers imo. Huge faith in the horse.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
            Mundi getting a sole entry in the Supreme from Scattergun Willie is a huge shot in the arm for backers imo. Huge faith in the horse.
            I'd see it as the opposite.
            The horses quirks mean he only has one option.
            Horses that settle and relax and can jump can pretty much go any trip.

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              I'd see it as the opposite.
              The horses quirks mean he only has one option.
              Horses that settle and relax and can jump can pretty much go any trip.

              Another way of looking at it.

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                I'd see it as the opposite.
                The horses quirks mean he only has one option.
                Horses that settle and relax and can jump can pretty much go any trip.
                How do you think they'll ride him?

                I'd like them to go forward, I think he's got plenty of stamina.

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                • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                  I'd see it as the opposite.
                  The horses quirks mean he only has one option.
                  Horses that settle and relax and can jump can pretty much go any trip.
                  Not sure anything you've said there means Willie has no faith in the horse (i.e., the opposite of huge faith in the horse)...

                  (I know you love pedantry and all that )

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                  • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                    How do you think they'll ride him?

                    I'd like them to go forward, I think he's got plenty of stamina.
                    Me too. He'll get a bit of dig on the first day guaranteed as well which is a plus. Go from the front.

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                    • Originally posted by Odin View Post

                      Not sure anything you've said there means Willie has no faith in the horse (i.e., the opposite of huge faith in the horse)...

                      (I know you love pedantry and all that )
                      You’re right.
                      opposite was the wrong word to use.
                      Not just faith.
                      no choice
                      Still think it shows he hasn’t got huge faith though

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        How do you think they'll ride him?

                        I'd like them to go forward, I think he's got plenty of stamina.
                        I think they’re concerned he’ll blow out if he front runs. That’s why they were teaching him the last day.
                        It’ll depend on who else is in the race.

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                        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                          I think they’re concerned he’ll blow out if he front runs. That’s why they were teaching him the last day.
                          It’ll depend on who else is in the race.
                          I'm sure he could slip a couple of also rans in to make it a proper clip

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                          • Going straight to Cheltenham feels me with even more confidence that they trust him to do the business. You'd think after his last run where he did most things wrong that any other trainer would like him to run again but not Willie. They know what they have at home.

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                            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                              You’re right.
                              opposite was the wrong word to use.
                              Not just faith.
                              no choice
                              Still think it shows he hasn’t got huge faith though
                              Fair

                              I disagree about the faith on both sides fwiw, I think it shows literally nothing as I feel like this has been his target since the summer and he's proven because he's keen he's not a good option for the Turners.

                              Lack of faith will be shown if PT doesn't ride him in Supreme but I can't see that happening.

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                              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                                I wonder if Enabler will end up in the bartlett after all ?
                                JackieMoon33 ?
                                Looking at Gigginstown entries in the Bartlett he looks their most likely runner to me.
                                Could have dropped on again.
                                Backed him anyway at mad prices in betfair
                                I've done the same but with Minella Sixo.

                                That Grade 2 race at Limerick over Christmas is a key part of the puzzle, not just for the Bartlett but the Pipe as well, and seeing as I have already covered MS for the Pipe I would feel a bit foolish if he turned up in a Bartlett and won it! It also gives me some cover on The Yellow Clay not turning up to the Bartlett.

                                As per Saxon Warrior diary, the Limerick race has produced the following (with regards to the Bartlett):

                                2023 - Stellar Story 2nd - Won the Bartlett
                                2022 - Letsbeclearaboutit 2nd - 4th in the Bartlett
                                2020 - Vanillier 2nd - Won the Bartlett
                                2019 - Fury Road Won - 3rd in the Bartlett
                                2016 - Penhill Won - Won the Bartlett

                                It's got a fair roll call. And now Gordon has done it with Stellar Story, I wonder if he's thinking a repeat could be on the cards with Minella Sixo.

                                Shantou's have a good recent record in the Bartlett too, with both last years winner, Stellar Story (also placed in the Limerick race and trained by Gordon) and Stay Away Fay, both winning the race. I don't think it's just coincidence either, looking at the rest of his progeny. Death Duty went off short in the race, albeit wasn't going to win when coming down, and Briar Hill, who was travelling very well when falling, back in the 2014 renewal of the race.

                                I've had some 140+ on the exchanges for small amounts, but also backed him this morning E/W @ 33/1 NRNB.

                                Mozzie's Sister is another to look at, from the race, but I have a thing about mares going for such a gruelling race like the Bartlett. I was also hoping for bigger than 25's too!

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