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  • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
    ….Kiss Will into 16-1 Sup, 20-1 Turn (PP/SB still offer 40-1 Turn) after that win.
    hills specials are nrmb and have 20s supreme and 25s turners...

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    • Originally posted by fatherjohn View Post

      hills specials are nrmb and have 20s supreme and 25s turners...

      ….was just coming on to post this, he is now a general 16-1 Sup. PP still offer 40-1 Turn. No idea what post-race comments were.

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      • Kiss Will did survive a final-flight error and regarding that blip, Townend reported “if he’s going to be a good horse, he’ll have to learn how to do that and is going to have to jump at speed. He found a leg, which was good.

        “It was a match (with chasing Hello Jack finished third) from the time we jumped off and I had the better of that turning in. He lengthened well up the straight, handled the nicer ground well and showed a little bit more of a turn of foot than I thought, although other people at home had different opinions of him.

        “I liked what he did: it was ‘out and get experience’ as much as anything today, and he’ll be an exciting horse with a future.”

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        • here's the full post race interview

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          • Any thoughts on Fishery Lane for the Bartlett?

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            • Originally posted by Unexposed View Post
              Any thoughts on Fishery Lane for the Bartlett?
              Was a fan before he ran, but wasn't overly enthused by what I saw.

              Needs to improve, obviously, but no saying he can't. A few of Willies have come on from their debuts tbf.

              Edit: Missed that he run and won today, so improvement on LTO. Didn't see the race, so will watch it in a bit.
              Last edited by ComplyOrDie; 16 January 2025, 06:00 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Unexposed View Post
                Any thoughts on Fishery Lane for the Bartlett?
                Two underwhelming runs now. This was better, but he’s barely pulling away from the second (110 rated) who made a terrible error at the last. Not one I’m keen on.

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                • Queens Wish made a very taking debut at Newcastle, be interesting to see where the Skeltons send her next, one to keep onside imo.

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                  • Jasmin De Vaux potentially going to run in the auction race at Naas the beginning of February.

                    Race has been won previously by City Island and Journey With Me, although Willie doesn't usually use it for his main Turners hopes.

                    That said, he'd have to split them somehow.

                    I'm not saying I'm expecting Jasmin De Vaux to suddenly pop up and win the Turners, but I wouldn't rule out a place, IF he shows huge improvement in the jumping department.

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                    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                      I'm not saying I'm expecting Jasmin De Vaux to suddenly pop up and win the Turners, but I wouldn't rule out a place, IF he shows huge improvement in the jumping department.
                      Just a couple of points on Jasmin as I remember watching Willies interviews pre/post-Lawlors. Quotes are from memory off racing TV, I haven't tried to find any relevant links.

                      1) Apparently Jasmin suffered an overreach and so they didn't get as much schooling into him prior to the Lawlors as they would have liked.

                      2) this race fits with Willie's immediate thought to give Jasmin a confidence boosting run next, rather than consider either the drf or direct to Cheltenham.

                      Maybe useful, maybe useless, maybe something people already know but figured I'd put the info here given it fits with his next target

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                      • Jalon d’oudairies is apparently alive but will not be running over hurdles this season instead the Festival
                        Bumper is the aim!

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                        • Ruby saying that Kiss Will will improve for stepping up in trip.

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                          • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
                            Ruby saying that Kiss Will will improve for stepping up in trip.

                            ….and PP go 16-1 Sup, 40-1 Turn. It would be interesting to know if Festival is a target.

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                            • ….Derryhassen Paddy 66-1 AB (from 100-1) with 365 after that win.

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                              • Did that well I thought, he isn’t half a big old unit!

                                Got headed after the last, battled back, got bumped (Skelton knew what he was doing the fucker) and still got his head in front.

                                Did jump right on a few occasions and looked like he’d take a good while to get going. Definitely be seen at his best 3m and a fence.

                                Only backed him today so will see after that.

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