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Not related to the above conversation but Kopek Des Bordes seems to be cut a point or 2 with a lot of firms over the last week. Best price 10/1 now and 8/1 with a few.
I think he’s going short fav if he wins at the DRF.
Last edited by Craigy14; 15 January 2025, 03:53 PM.
Yeah maybe went a tad high saying 140 on looking through the mares maiden with it side by side
What I would say though is 19lb difference in that ground that looked really sapping could have potentially exaggerated it
A good performance nonetheless, and Paul obviously liked what he felt.
Where he fits in, who knows. Maybe that Listed race at Punchestown end of next month and go from there.
He finished quite tired so you'd expect there to be some extra fitness. One I'd think who will stay at home and maybe go for a graded race closer to Cheltenham and then maybe Aintree and/or Punchestown. Not really sure what other graded novice races are around March/April.
Do you think he'll stay at 2m or could go up in trip?
He finished quite tired so you'd expect there to be some extra fitness. One I'd think who will stay at home and maybe go for a graded race closer to Cheltenham and then maybe Aintree and/or Punchestown. Not really sure what other graded novice races are around March/April.
Do you think he'll stay at 2m or could go up in trip?
Could definitely go out in trip to me, he didn't fall in a hole after the last even after going that pace, he'd definitely get further if held on to a little.
In Auteuil he took it up down the back leading to the 2nd last IIRC, and then looked like he would get swallowed up for the places but kept at it nicely.
Not related to the above conversation but Kopek Des Bordes seems to be cut a point or 2 with a lot of firms over the last week. Best price 10/1 now and 8/1 with a few.
I think he’s going short fav if he wins at the DRF.
Kaid D'Authie has been cut to 8's for the Turners also by Denise and a couple of others, has he been tipped up anywhere?
The Yellow Clay has shortened for the AB on betfair over the last couple of days. Last price match was 8.2, which is shorter than what's available with most bookies.
Maybe nothing to it but thought it was worth mentioning. There'll be plenty of AB vouchers for him on here I'd imagine.
The Yellow Clay has shortened for the AB on betfair over the last couple of days. Last price match was 8.2, which is shorter than what's available with most bookies.
Maybe nothing to it but thought it was worth mentioning. There'll be plenty of AB vouchers for him on here I'd imagine.
Yeah, been keeping an eye on this too.
Keen for him to go to the Bartlett, so I'm hoping this movement is for good reason.
I’d be surprised if he ended up there. Turners all the way. And still available at a fair price IMO.
I would as well, given GEs comment. Just thought it was odd that he was/is shorter on the exchange for the AB than the Turners. Granted, it probably wouldn't take more than fifty quid to do that.
Would not surprise me if Wingmen went AB
Thought that was an improvement last time, and can see the possibility of him and TYC going for both races with. Chances.
Is it just me or does the betting for the turners and supreme not make sense, as why would you buy the favourite for the turners novice at big money then back your other horse to win the race and am I missing something about Workahead as it got beat almost 10 lengths by a horse who could have run through all the hurdles and not jumped any worse than it did and now Workahead is 12/1, I understand it won next time out but the second pulled forever and the favourite was older than Winston Churchill plus the enabler beat him over two miles, I wonder if it is almost tempting to run jasmine de Vaux in the supreme there are less hurdles and the way he seemed to storm clear after jumping the last at Navan really slow show there is an engine if we forget his last run and weeks and weeks of schooling lol
Don't want to put this in the 'Out For The Season Section' because of 1. The trepidation when something has been posted in there. 2. I am unsure of it's origin and 3. Not many will have backed it
But Donwave (Henderson/JP McManus) has been mentioned as one to follow on the Sporting Life podcast, literally 2 minutes after Graham Cunningham was urging people to bet with caution and not to listen to every Tom, Dick and Harry. So right after he said that one of his co-hosts put up Donwave. Just been checking him out to see if there are any updates and it says he actually died in May. Sure Nicky had this one in his stable tour, unless it was last years. Definitely been in one of them.
I missing something about Workahead as it got beat almost 10 lengths by a horse who could have run through all the hurdles and not jumped any worse than it did and now Workahead is 12/1, I understand it won next time out but the second pulled forever and the favourite was older than Winston Churchill plus the enabler beat him over two miles, I wonder if it is almost tempting to run jasmine de Vaux in the supreme there are less hurdles and the way he seemed to storm clear after jumping the last at Navan really slow show there is an engine if we forget his last run and weeks and weeks of schooling lol
that maidan he was beaten in was fairly strong tbf
it wasn’t a 4 year old maidens only race, which a few of the others in and around 10/1 - 20/1 (supreme and turners) have ran and won in, and therefore looked half decent.
Was his first run in 600 days
His second maidan was a decent one too. Had a 2 horses in there with RPR of 130-140 over bumpers. These are more competitive races than what the likes of Mundi has raced in, and a few others - such as Kaid who I really like but need to be mindful that he won a 4 year old maiden and not to get carried away with the result but to focus on rhe way he travelled and whether he could improve on to be competitive in a novice race at the fez.
Workahead has showed improvement from his first run, he ran a decent time despite having to do all the work himself
The yard harent firing either, so can imagine a few more lbs improvement in him as and when Henry starts to show better form across his runners
at 25/1 a few weeks ago, he was a good bet after comments made saying the supreme was the target
12-14/1 starting to look skinny? Think he may turn up on the day around 9/1
Re:jasmine de Vaux
yeah, I wouldn’t be too quick to give up on this horse
travelled way too powerfully in testing conditions at navan, think he could place at a decent price in tbe supreme. Firefox blew up the same race last year and finished the season well. Thought he could have got closer in the surprise but got into a little trouble on the run in. 33/1 could be half decent for a place. However, Townend will pick willies best hope for that, which will Mundi and its uncommon for the second string to win at the Cheltenham fez with that yard. I may take another look at his races to if there’s merit here of backing him
Last edited by opatcho; 16 January 2025, 06:58 AM.
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