2025 Novice Hurdlers

[Carnage at Taunton]

You may well be right

But personally the recent success iv had in the turners is backing horses with 2 mile form

Fair enough.

[Quevega]

In recent times the horses with 2 mile form have definitely been proven the best to have onside, even when the ground has turned in favour of stamina.
Maybe that's down to the lack of numbers and lack of gallop.
Yellow Clay might need something else in there to set a really strong pace, and get soft ground to have any chance.
But I'd find it hard to see why he could win the Turners in most circumstances.

Yes he's got wins on better ground but not at any sort of level or against any really decent opposition which renders that almost meaningless.
Today's form is worth much more but was achieved IMO because of the gallop and conditions. Even though the time was average at best.

If we do have a dryish Spring then I'd not be surprised to see him in the bartlett after all.

[Carnage at Taunton]

In recent times the horses with 2 mile form have definitely been proven the best to have onside, even when the ground has turned in favour of stamina.
Maybe that's down to the lack of numbers and lack of gallop.
Yellow Clay might need something else in there to set a really strong pace, and get soft ground to have any chance.
But I'd find it hard to see why he could win the Turners in most circumstances.

Yes he's got wins on better ground but not at any sort of level or against any really decent opposition which renders that almost meaningless.
Today's form is worth much more but was achieved IMO because of the gallop and conditions. Even though the time was average at best.

If we do have a dryish Spring then I'd not be surprised to see him in the bartlett after all.

Well before trainers comments after the race I thought it was a 50/50 call, and would be no surprise to me if they end up
leaving it as late as possible to see what the likely ground is.
Despite what the trainer has said.
If you look at his races it makes sense to me.

[Quevega]

https://www.attheraces.com/news/2025/January/05/the-yellow-clay-claims-grade-one-success-in-fine-style

"Sam says he hated the ground"

Yeah, how's he worked that out then Gordon ?

Some muggy cunts will read that and think he's fucking Istabraq !.

[Lobos]

Turners hurdle for The Yellow Clay Gordon says

That race is well stacked now.

Think he looks more an Albert type but I'll settle for that.

Gord knows best....

[Lobos]

Sounds like Wingmen will go over 3 miles according to Gordon. Digging those WTAF bets out of the bin. Thought he behaved a lot better today.

He'll do a Stellar

[Lobos]

Compared to the other top trainers, Willie seems to have a larger percentage of his novice hurdlers jumping poorly. You wouldn't see a Hendo or Elliott horse jumping like JDV has the last twice.

Thought someone said he doesn't school them much at home ? Leaves it for race day.

[Lobos]

You may well be right

But personally the recent success iv had in the turners is backing horses with 2 mile form

Not if he's in the wrong race

[Exar Essay]

We now have three solid form lines going in to the Turners. And all three are likely straight there.

Potter Charm
The New Lion
The Yellow Clay

The final strong form line in to the Turners is likely to be either the winner of the Moscow Flyer or DRF 2 mile.

Willie could also run Ballygunner Castle or C’est Ta Chance if impressing in the Munster Hurdle.

Willie could also drop Final Demand down in trip if showing gears in the Nathaniel Lacy and nothing else of note appearing from other races, but I’d make the Bartlett the favourite for him.

By the sounds of things, Supersundae may head here too, but whilst you could make a case for him getting closer, he’s not likely to reverse the form with TYC.

Karafon and Karniquet might too, but they’re more likely to have a mark suitable for one of the handicaps.

Gordon might also run another (potentially Bleu De Vassy or Kainsbourg).

The rest of the field will likely be once raced Mullins novices yet to appear like Jimmy De Seuil and Mercurey last year. I’m thinking Kiss Will and Funiculi Finicula this year.

On the above basis, I think we’re likely to have four strong form lines coming in. TNL, TYC, PC, and whoever Townend’s ride is.

I think 10/1 (11/1 with boost) about The Yellow Clay is a good bet. I can’t see bookies letting him go off an ew price on the day.

[Big Zeb]

i was told Salvy Mundi won't be having an entry in the Moscow Flyer. Horse isn't injured.

[darlojim]

i was told Salvy Mundi won't be having an entry in the Moscow Flyer. Horse isn't injured.

Would make no sense for him to miss that race but NOT be injured

[Big Zeb]

Would make no sense for him to miss that race but NOT be injured

I wasn't provided a reason. Maybe the horse is a couple of weeks behind and Willie wants to wait a couple of weeks, its still early January

[darlojim]

I wasn't provided a reason. Maybe the horse is a couple of weeks behind and Willie wants to wait a couple of weeks, its still early January

This by someone who can be trusted? Seems to be varying bits of information coming out about him thats for sure

[Markmightbite]

And moved a couple of points on the exchanges

[EnvoiAlien]

Anyone know when Mundi went back into training ?