2025 Novice Hurdlers

[ComplyOrDie]

If you don't like the price, don't roll him up mate. I think we are all guilty of doing this from time to time, but if we think a horse is too short then we should just leave them.

The time to do roll ups is when they are over priced, and you're multiplying value by value.

I liked The New Lion today but wouldn't be interested in his price. It'd be a surprise to me if he wasn't 4/1 at some point on the Wednesday morning.

If they are going straight to the Turners then I'd say it's almost guaranteed he'll be bigger. Long time from now until then for the Irish to come about.

[darlojim]

If they are going straight to the Turners then I'd say it's almost guaranteed he'll be bigger. Long time from now until then for the Irish to come about.

This, 100%

You'll get 6s on the day I'd be sure.

[Yosser]

If you don't like the price, don't roll him up mate. I think we are all guilty of doing this from time to time, but if we think a horse is too short then we should just leave them.

The time to do roll ups is when they are over priced, and you're multiplying value by value.

I liked The New Lion today but wouldn't be interested in his price. It'd be a surprise to me if he wasn't 4/1 at some point on the Wednesday morning.

Yeah, like i say, i am not really that bothered about him and his price is stinky. Might just try and double it with a couple of easy(ish) football bets as a bit of cover but only if the books are complete. He isn't even on there as a preliminary but i will probably let him go as you say. He will improve no doubt but so will the ones over the channel.

[Quevega]

If you don't like the price, don't roll him up mate. I think we are all guilty of doing this from time to time, but if we think a horse is too short then we should just leave them.

The time to do roll ups is when they are over priced, and you're multiplying value by value.

I liked The New Lion today but wouldn't be interested in his price. It'd be a surprise to me if he wasn't 4/1 at some point on the Wednesday morning.

Been banging this drum for a long time.
Plenty of time to get horses on side, especially ones not likely to run again before March.
And for every one you try and get on side 3 months or more away, at least 3 or 4 won’t even run for you in the end.

[EnvoiAlien]

Anyone on TNL wants to hope he doesn't get too fresh sat at home for the next 11 weeks,thats a long time for some,can get very buzzy.

[Rooster Booster]

Been banging this drum for a long time.
Plenty of time to get horses on side, especially ones not likely to run again before March.
And for every one you try and get on side 3 months or more away, at least 3 or 4 won’t even run for you in the end.

Absolutely. As much discipline should be applied in choosing a roll up as should for a regular ante post bet but because the stakes for roll ups are generally smaller I suspect many of us abandon some of that needed discipline ….to quote Del Amitri….when you count the cost of all those losses there’s no profit at all.

[Quevega]

Absolutely. As much discipline should be applied in choosing a roll up as should for a regular ante post bet but because the stakes for roll ups are generally smaller I suspect many of us abandon some of that needed discipline ….to quote Del Amitri….when you count the cost of all those losses there’s no profit at all.

And that might be the first Del Amitri reference on here.

[ComplyOrDie]

Taken some of the 100/1 about Regents Stroll.

The yard were extremely bullish on him prior to today, and his debut over 2m was extremely encouraging. Encouraging enough that they may well drop him back to 2m. They did it with Al Ferof. Could lightning strike twice? Probably not, but 100/1 is enough for me to want to find out.

[AaronLad]

Cracking performance from Bill joyve with a view to the bartlett

[Carnage at Taunton]

Anyone on TNL wants to hope he doesn't get too fresh sat at home for the next 11 weeks,thats a long time for some,can get very buzzy.

That’s when you have to have faith in the trainer

[darlojim]

Taken some of the 100/1 about Regents Stroll.

The yard were extremely bullish on him prior to today, and his debut over 2m was extremely encouraging. Encouraging enough that they may well drop him back to 2m. They did it with Al Ferof. Could lightning strike twice? Probably not, but 100/1 is enough for me to want to find out.

FWIW Paul said they'll go small with him now, try get him to settle in races with few runners and start to teach him for the long term view.

A classic 'will skip the fez'

[Carnage at Taunton]

Cracking performance from Bill joyve with a view to the bartlett

Totally agree, he’s one I’m glad to have onside.

[Guinness Village]

I’d look fast walking past trees.
keep the JDV price up.

[ComplyOrDie]

FWIW Paul said they'll go small with him now, try get him to settle in races with few runners and start to teach him for the long term view.

A classic 'will skip the fez'

Cheers Jim, hadn't seen the quotes.

[Exar Essay]

Visually that was super impressive. And thanks to Ladbrokes he’s my biggest realistic winner in the race.

However, I’d be interested to see the ratings. The two other favs, Bill Joyce and Regents Stroll were keen and very keen respectively. And Regents Stroll made an error at the last (again). The horse in second has an RPR of 120. Electric Mason (129) has made the pace and not finished 10l back.

I’d say the winner was better than anything in last years Challow but I’d be surprised if he’s rated better than Hermes Allen when winning in 2022.

TNL has won as he liked, but I do feel the race rather fell apart. Who knows how much he had left under the bonnet.