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Agree . That's completely wrong. He won but it was an awful race and he wasn't at all impressive. A bit like Torvill and Dean, they seem to give good marks to some just because of reputation.
Maybe that is the case, although some horses, like Romeo Coolio, with a reputation, wasn't given a high RPR. There are other examples, but he's the obvious one, and he won by some 18 lengths!
His RPR has been adjusted, it was initially around the 120 mark, it's now 128 though, so maybe they will adjust Jasmin De Vauxs.
Appear to be quite positive vibes for both Kel Histoire and Kilgame ahead of Friday’s clash. Both currently 50/1 with B365 which seem generous prices. Hills only 20’s the pair so any WTAF offer unlikely to reach the B365 price.
Appear to be quite positive vibes for both Kel Histoire and Kilgame ahead of Friday’s clash. Both currently 50/1 with B365 which seem generous prices. Hills only 20’s the pair so any WTAF offer unlikely to reach the B365 price.
Should have said that’s 50/1 for the Supreme.
Cant wait for Kel Histoire to debut myself, long time since July 6th when I put him up on my twitter
Very tough assignment against Kilgame first time up with Henry always having them ready to rock but I'd be fairly hopeful. Lets hope they both actually run as i believe it could be a decent formline to look back on later in the season
Cant wait for Kel Histoire to debut myself, long time since July 6th when I put him up on my twitter
Very tough assignment against Kilgame first time up with Henry always having them ready to rock but I'd be fairly hopeful. Lets hope they both actually run as i believe it could be a decent formline to look back on later in the season
Hopefully it will be a Ferny Hollow versus Bob Olinger type of race.
Cant wait for Kel Histoire to debut myself, long time since July 6th when I put him up on my twitter
Very tough assignment against Kilgame first time up with Henry always having them ready to rock but I'd be fairly hopeful. Lets hope they both actually run as i believe it could be a decent formline to look back on later in the season
I think it will be.
WPM sort of has a line through Funiculi’s run finishing ahead of King Conti last October who in turn then beat Kilgame next time out. I know they’re young and progress at different stages but worth noting to form some judgements.
As you say HDB’s novices have been very good particularly this season imo early on.
“The plan with William Munny is to run him in the maiden hurdle at Leopardstown on the 26th (of December),” said Connell.
“I’d say it could be pretty strong this year because it’s been so dry and a lot of horses haven’t been out yet. In other years a lot of the good novices have already been out.
“He’s schooled well and is in good form and the Punchestown bumper he ran in is working out, he seems to be a natural.”
Cant wait for Kel Histoire to debut myself, long time since July 6th when I put him up on my twitter
Very tough assignment against Kilgame first time up with Henry always having them ready to rock but I'd be fairly hopeful. Lets hope they both actually run as i believe it could be a decent formline to look back on later in the season
What races would you favour for them both ATM? Obviously a million different pieces to the puzzle but gun to head?
I was favouring supreme for both but wondering if kaid dauthie might be the jp supreme horse given how strong he was the other day before he fell, pushing Kel histoire towards the Ballymore
What races would you favour for them both ATM? Obviously a million different pieces to the puzzle but gun to head?
I was favouring supreme for both but wondering if kaid dauthie might be the jp supreme horse given how strong he was the other day before he fell, pushing Kel histoire towards the Ballymore
Yeah hard to be confident really this far out mate but I had Kel Histoire as a supreme horse from the summer and id edge towards the Ballymore with Kilgame, but as you know, its so hard to predict these correctly without seeing them in UK/IRE.
I do get the point with Kaid D'authie though, the vibes do seem strong with him, and the way he bowled out infront at Navan he could be the JP 2miler
We'll know a bit more Friday with how they both race, whether thats a good pace set throughout by one of them or one winning with a good turn of foot, but I'd be pretty hopeful that Kel Histoire can get his Irish career off to a good start.
C’est Ta Chance is one who’s gone a little under the radar. He was impressive enough to my eye on debut, but was overshadowed by his stablemate Karafon in the next. I saw mention that Jasmin De Vaux put up one of the best debut RPR’s earlier at 132. This chap put up 131 so if that is correct, he’d not be far off the best seen so far. He looked a stayer so would be most interesting for the Bartlett, but I’ve taken a couple of big prices on BFX about the Turners.
Yeah hard to be confident really this far out mate but I had Kel Histoire as a supreme horse from the summer and id edge towards the Ballymore with Kilgame, but as you know, its so hard to predict these correctly without seeing them in UK/IRE.
I do get the point with Kaid D'authie though, the vibes do seem strong with him, and the way he bowled out infront at Navan he could be the JP 2miler
We'll know a bit more Friday with how they both race, whether thats a good pace set throughout by one of them or one winning with a good turn of foot, but I'd be pretty hopeful that Kel Histoire can get his Irish career off to a good start.
Yeah hard to be confident really this far out mate but I had Kel Histoire as a supreme horse from the summer and id edge towards the Ballymore with Kilgame, but as you know, its so hard to predict these correctly without seeing them in UK/IRE.
I do get the point with Kaid D'authie though, the vibes do seem strong with him, and the way he bowled out infront at Navan he could be the JP 2miler
We'll know a bit more Friday with how they both race, whether thats a good pace set throughout by one of them or one winning with a good turn of foot, but I'd be pretty hopeful that Kel Histoire can get his Irish career off to a good start.
….ffs, had to do the ‘related double’ @ 1,7773-1 with 365.
They were crowing about him a fair bit on the most recent upping the ante.
I thought he was doing everything correctly until he fell and was going nicely, but I don't see it how some do, including Johnny, that he'd have won by half the track. I didn't see enough to conclude that. I like him and had him on the radar over the summer as one of ten or so from Willie's but I'd not be taking 20's now. His debut did at least show us the type of horse he is including that he jumps well enough (bar the fall obviously) but there seem to be some big opinions taken off the back of it.
Perhaps it's a sign of the market. Not often that you get to mid-December without having seen a standout performance.
Last edited by Exar Essay; 12 December 2024, 10:26 AM.
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