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2025 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    As low as 12's in places. Bit of an over reaction from bookies imo but can see why she's popular. The 3rd home today finished 2nd in a PTP to Port Joulain and also 2nd to Mister Meggit in a Bumper . The horse in 2nd has decent back form as well. She could be very good.
    Have to completely disagree on this. The 2nd also did plenty wrong and she’s only won in a photo finish. The 3rd horse got beat by Meggit in a canter. The 4th and 5th horses have already been stuffed in poor maidens. Not saying she’s no good at all but she’s 1 million miles off being in the Cheltenham mares novice picture atm.

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

      As low as 12's in places. Bit of an over reaction from bookies imo but can see why she's popular. The 3rd home today finished 2nd in a PTP to Port Joulain and also 2nd to Mister Meggit in a Bumper . The horse in 2nd has decent back form as well. She could be very good.

      ….i’d be interested in any post-race comments but not seen any. The plan was a listed Mares Novice at Newbury at the end of this month.

      She powered through to lead at the last but jumped it very badly. Really good attitude to get back up (might appreciate the Cheltenham hill) but Fry will have to work on that jumping.

      Edit; found this; “
      "I feel better now the photo-finish has been called," said Fry. "She looked like she came there to win her race nicely at the last and to dig deep and get herself back in front after what happened showed she has the guts to go with her latent ability.

      "It was messy up the straight but she got the job done and can build from here. I had in mind the mares' Listed novice hurdle at Newbury at the end of the month but we'll have to see as she's given herself a harder race than we'd have liked."
      Last edited by Eggs; 11 November 2024, 07:54 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Studfarm254 View Post

        Have to completely disagree on this. The 2nd also did plenty wrong and she’s only won in a photo finish. The 3rd horse got beat by Meggit in a canter. The 4th and 5th horses have already been stuffed in poor maidens. Not saying she’s no good at all but she’s 1 million miles off being in the Cheltenham mares novice picture atm.
        yep, the 2nd comes out with a lot of credit imo
        Nott convinced at all with the winner,but she needs to be seen again for sure

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        • She was out early enough. Love Envoi didn't see a hurdle until early December then had 4 quick races (Wins) before bolting up in the MNH for Harry. There's plenty of time/races for her to get some good practice in before her festival target. If he thinks she is as good as or better than Love Envoi then that'll do for me. She's already had experience of the Cheltenham course/hill having won a Bumper there impressively so that's a big tick in her box.
          Last edited by Lobos; 11 November 2024, 08:06 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

            yep, the 2nd comes out with a lot of credit imo
            Nott convinced at all with the winner,but she needs to be seen again for sure
            Yes, he ran really well having taken it up early and went again when AP came to him. If she can iron out the mistakes I don't see any reason why she wouldn't beat him again though should they ever meet again which is unlikely. She did amazingly well to get anywhere near the places let alone win based on how she jumped throughout the race. Not many Novices could have done what she did from that position.

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            • Originally posted by Studfarm254 View Post

              Have to completely disagree on this. The 2nd also did plenty wrong and she’s only won in a photo finish. The 3rd horse got beat by Meggit in a canter. The 4th and 5th horses have already been stuffed in poor maidens. Not saying she’s no good at all but she’s 1 million miles off being in the Cheltenham mares novice picture atm.
              A million might be slightly over exaggeration as she's probably the only one in the MNH picture ATM as she's the only one that's ran that's going to target the race. I'm waiting for news on entries for Willies battalion in the race though so things could change very soon..

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                Yes, he ran really well having taken it up early and went again when AP came to him. If she can iron out the mistakes I don't see any reason why she wouldn't beat him again though should they ever meet again which is unlikely. She did amazingly well to get anywhere near the places let alone win based on how she jumped throughout the race. Not many Novices could have done what she did from that position.
                Yep, I see your point and she improves her jumping she could be a good one
                The 2nd was not an easy ride at all and pulled and wandered about and still nearly won, must have a fair engine.
                Anyway like you say , they are probably off in different directions now.

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                • I liked Hendos winner at Kempton yesterday, was quite impressed with that.
                  No idea how good he is or can be but it was a nice debut I thought.
                  Not priced up anywhere that I can see…… probably just as well!!

                  Have had a little dabble for Supreme on his at Lingfield today, Centreofattention.
                  He got a good mention in his stable tour.
                  Thought the price was worth a go, just in case!!
                  Last edited by Carnage at Taunton; 12 November 2024, 07:03 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
                    I liked Hendos winner at Kempton yesterday, was quite impressed with that.
                    No idea how good he is or can be but it was a nice debut I thought.
                    Not priced up anywhere that I can see…… probably just as well!!

                    Have had a little dabble for Supreme on his at Lingfield today, Centreofattention.
                    He got a good mention in his stable tour.
                    Thought the price was worth a go, just in case!!
                    Done him too….but NR today
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                    • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                      Done him too….but NR today
                      That’s a shame
                      Cheers TR

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                      • Sounds Victorious entered Friday. First of Willies top Novices.

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                        • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
                          I liked Hendos winner at Kempton yesterday, was quite impressed with that.
                          No idea how good he is or can be but it was a nice debut I thought.
                          Not priced up anywhere that I can see…… probably just as well!!

                          Have had a little dabble for Supreme on his at Lingfield today, Centreofattention.
                          He got a good mention in his stable tour.
                          Thought the price was worth a go, just in case!!
                          I'm quite excited about Jazz De Cotte who beat him in that Ayr bumper

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                          • Originally posted by OverTheLast View Post

                            I'm quite excited about Jazz De Cotte who beat him in that Ayr bumper
                            Looking forward to seeing him and even more so Son of Anarchy who beat him in the point to point

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                            • Originally posted by UpInTrip View Post

                              Looking forward to seeing him and even more so Son of Anarchy who beat him in the point to point
                              You can still get 25s any race with sky for son of anarchy..

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                              • I’m guessing the 2 Bet365 price boosts are the Upping the Ante picks

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