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2025 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

    Agree about some of them but surely unless you’re book building you’re not going back in on the mare? Year off or not horse that just beat her was about 100 lengths behind her on the flat race and also was 0/8 over hurdles. Might look attractive but she ain’t winning the mares novice imo.
    Yeah i do books Craig. I will go back in each way but only very small stakes and not yet. I will wait for news from the yard and i have other horses in other races i want onside but haven't yet before i start topping any up. She might run in the meantime and bomb out or hose up but i am already on at 33s so that will do for now.

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    • I think both The Yellow Clay & Wingmen will be aimed at the Bartlett. Whether they decide to run both against each other on the day is another thing. They may hold one back, maybe Wingmen given his jumping to the right tendancy.

      Giggs ended up with two in the race for Gordon last season and I'm pretty sure the Morans won't need much persuading.

      I don't have The Yellow Clay on my mind for the Turners at all.

      Did back some of the 'WTAF' @ 16's though, which kinda covers me a little for the Turners but I genuinely think he'd fall short enough of the level required for that.

      Still think Jalon will be Gordon's Turners horse, though he won't be seen until Christmas time by the sounds of it.

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      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
        I think both The Yellow Clay & Wingmen will be aimed at the Bartlett. Whether they decide to run both against each other on the day is another thing. They may hold one back, maybe Wingmen given his jumping to the right tendancy.

        Giggs ended up with two in the race for Gordon last season and I'm pretty sure the Morans won't need much persuading.

        I don't have The Yellow Clay on my mind for the Turners at all.

        Did back some of the 'WTAF' @ 16's though, which kinda covers me a little for the Turners but I genuinely think he'd fall short enough of the level required for that.

        Still think Jalon will be Gordon's Turners horse, though he won't be seen until Christmas time by the sounds of it.
        Worth keeping in mind that the Morans wanted to keep Ginto and Hollow Games apart 3 years ago. It was either Ballymore for Ginto and AB for Hollow Games, or AB for Ginto and Pipe for Hollow Games as it turned out to be.

        I can see there being a similar equation for them to solve come March next year.

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        • ….Yellow Clay;


          Elliott said: “He’s a nice horse and has always done everything well at home.

          “I loved the way when he made the mistake at the second-last, he (Kennedy) squeezed him and he let him back on to the bridle.

          “I’d say he is a nice horse. I thought it was a good performance, he quickened off them. He has a great attitude and a great way of racing, he is so laid-back.”

          On what would be next for the Noel and Valerie Moran-owned winner, Elliott pointed towards a Grade One target: “You’d imagine we would go to the Lawlor’s (of Naas).”

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          • Anyone know what's happening with Henderson horse Minella Premier? my cashout options has gone on Bet365

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            • Originally posted by JamieSensible View Post
              Anyone know what's happening with Henderson horse Minella Premier? my cashout options has gone on Bet365
              Wasn't on the stable tour and somebody had mentioned the cash out a couple of days before. You would like to think somebody would have known by now if he was injured. (I am hoping for the best too) hopefully he just requested that he wasn't asked about after the hype with Jeriko Du Reponet last year. Might be clutching at straws but let's hope its something like that and the bookies knew he wasn't in the tour.

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              • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
                Mister meggit is lame. Has stress fracture. Probably not new or privileged news
                Been told by two separate people at the yard that this is incorrect.

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                • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                  Worth keeping in mind that the Morans wanted to keep Ginto and Hollow Games apart 3 years ago. It was either Ballymore for Ginto and AB for Hollow Games, or AB for Ginto and Pipe for Hollow Games as it turned out to be.

                  I can see there being a similar equation for them to solve come March next year.
                  Yep, I think they will be going in the two novice races if all goes ok with both of them.
                  Gut feeling at this stage is TYC turners, and Wingmen AB.
                  Thought TYC jumped better than Wingmen and looked a more slicker jumper.

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                  • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                    Yep, I think they will be going in the two novice races if all goes ok with both of them.
                    Gut feeling at this stage is TYC turners, and Wingmen AB.
                    Thought TYC jumped better than Wingmen and looked a more slicker jumper.
                    The comments from Gordon re Wingmen jumping to his right and going that way next time is a bit of a worry. Could be that he avoids Cheltenham completely perhaps?

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      The comments from Gordon re Wingmen jumping to his right and going that way next time is a bit of a worry. Could be that he avoids Cheltenham completely perhaps?
                      Yep, would be a concern if it continues .
                      To be honest I do think he’s a stayer and will go 3m if he does go to the festival, but not convinced as to his ability to be a major contender, although of course he could improve to be over the season.

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                      • Of the two, TYC was by far the most impressive. On that ground he could easily step up to the Albert trip as he was so strong at the finish. However, if it turns out a Soft ground Festival once again then I can't see him running in anything other than the Gallagher's. Gordon has definitely got some serious young animals to go to war with this season.

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                        • TYC 8/1 in WH TWAR market for those that are split.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            TYC 8/1 in WH TWAR market for those that are split.
                            If you're split between the AB and the Turners then you shouldn't be using the TWAR. I'm a broken record on this one, but he's either a AB horse or a Turners horse, he can't be both. Use TWAR for Supreme and Turners as those races are interchangeable.

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                            • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                              If you're split between the AB and the Turners then you shouldn't be using the TWAR. I'm a broken record on this one, but he's either a AB horse or a Turners horse, he can't be both. Use TWAR for Supreme and Turners as those races are interchangeable.
                              Yep, good point. I suppose on deep ground the Supreme could also be an option for him. Gordon has plenty of Novice Hurdlers to mix and match by the looks of it.

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                              • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post

                                Been told by two separate people at the yard that this is incorrect.
                                Only repeating what jonjo told us on Saturday morning. Make of it what you will.

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