2025 Novice Hurdlers

[TigerRolllllll]

Good by Wendigo

Anyone else bought a fun share in him ? Only £60 & get a Chelt runner with decent chance

Think still available

[ComplyOrDie]

No surprise really, but Lulamba taken out of the Supreme

[ComplyOrDie]

Played that double with Kopek, decent form related double should Kawa go the Turners route, 18/1 with sky

Done the same, mate

[Craigy14]

8/1 NRNB is a lovely E/W play. That said, I've used that phrase before and it doesn't look like ending too well

Played that double with Kopek, decent form related double should Kawa go the Turners route, 18/1 with sky

[Carnage at Taunton]

One to keep an eye on as a chaser, IMO.

Indeed, there’s always a few of them about this time of year!!

[ComplyOrDie]

Forgot about Karbau, he’s interesting wherever he ends up imo

One to keep an eye on as a chaser, IMO.

[darlojim]

8/1 NRNB is a lovely E/W play. That said, I've used that phrase before and it doesn't look like ending too well

hahaha

He really is an EW bet to nothing

[Carnage at Taunton]

Forgot about Karbau, he’s interesting wherever he ends up imo

[ComplyOrDie]

Totally agree

I've my reservations myself about Final Demand and whether he possesses the speed for a Turners, whereas Kawaboomga is a fast improving horse, think he'd go mighty close if they send him that way, and would personally have him shorter in the betting

8/1 NRNB is a lovely E/W play. That said, I've used that phrase before and it doesn't look like ending too well

[Jrow]

I thought he said Kappa Jy Pyke and Karbau for the Supreme and that Kiss Will might step up to the Turners as he settles well?

Sorry, you are correct he did say that. Also gave Jasmin as his albert bartlet pick

[darlojim]

Kawaboomga should not be underestimated, IMO.

I think he now goes to the Turners with a real chance.

Totally agree

I've my reservations myself about Final Demand and whether he possesses the speed for a Turners, whereas Kawaboomga is a fast improving horse, think he'd go mighty close if they send him that way, and would personally have him shorter in the betting

[ComplyOrDie]

Ruby on latest paddy power podcast very confident on KDB for the supreme with Kiss Will and Karbau as good each way picks. Doesnt even mention the possibility of KDB for the turners. Also suggests Kawaboomga is most likely Turners bound. He had slight reservations about Final Demand having the speed for the turners, but does say hes the best horse in race.

Kawaboomga should not be underestimated, IMO.

I think he now goes to the Turners with a real chance.

[Exar Essay]

Ruby on latest paddy power podcast very confident on KDB for the supreme with Kiss Will and Karbau as good each way picks. Doesnt even mention the possibility of KDB for the turners. Also suggests Kawaboomga is most likely Turners bound. He had slight reservations about Final Demand having the speed for the turners, but does say hes the best horse in race.

I thought he said Kappa Jy Pyke and Karbau for the Supreme and that Kiss Will might step up to the Turners as he settles well?

[Jrow]

Ruby on latest paddy power podcast very confident on KDB for the supreme with Kiss Will and Karbau as good each way picks. Doesnt even mention the possibility of KDB for the turners. Also suggests Kawaboomga is most likely Turners bound. He had slight reservations about Final Demand having the speed for the turners, but does say hes the best horse in race.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Don't do it mate! You probably can't cash out any bets for KDB Turners now anyway, but I'd suggest hoping with no rationale for the best (KDB Turners), whilst preparing for the worse (KDB Supreme) - that's what I'm doing anyway, knowing full well that it won't happen


As an aside, what's the rationale behind Kawaboomga going Supreme? He got pumped by KDB on debut, where both looked like they would improve before KDB improved a full 12lbs more on his second start (9lbs Kawa, 21lbs KDB) according to RPRs. There's not normally 12lbs difference in improvement between two horses just because one ran in a maiden vs a graded race - it's normally around 7lbs. Makes considerably more sense to me to go two handed in the Turners and send Kel Histoire who got close-ish to Salvator despite suffering interference in the Moscow Flyer to try and fill one of the places there. There's no obvious evidence that any of them would beat KDB and it's not clear they'd beat Salvator or Romeo so makes sense to try and win the other race to me?

Yep, and it’s clear that WM sees Kawa as more of a Turners horse, and he should know!!!
So no sensible rationale that I can see.

As said before……Kopek,Salvator to Supreme
FD and Kawa to Turners.
Think Kel H will turn up in one or the other.