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  • Rooster Booster
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    Originally posted by AaronLad View Post
    I really like the chances of Tripoli flyer in the dovecote today, and I think he's going to put in a performance to take serious note of.

    He probably first showed his potential in the bumper at Aintree grand national meeting, finishing 2nd after hitting the front 3f out, which was ultimately too soon but was a result of just how well he was travelling.
    He got beat by his stablemate and I got the feeling fergal was slightly surprised which of his won, that's how highly I feel he rates Tripoli.
    The right horses finished 3rd and 4th that day, with good and clever running with credit in grade 1s and valgrand well fancied for the county off 134 this season.
    His stablemate ,horaces pearl who won ,also remains unbeaten, however hasnt been seen since winning on hurdle debut.

    On Tripolis hurdle debut he was ridden just off the pace the leader set with the front 3 some 25 lengths ahead around the halfway mark.
    ​​Jurancon and tripoli flyer easily picked off the pace setter and carried on the battle up the run in.
    Jurancon clearly working the harder of the 2.
    Jurancon jumped across tripoli flyer at the last flight and with that his chances were probably gone.
    I felt that Johnny Burke was wary of getting to the front too soon with him on this occasion after what had happened at Aintree and i think he is a better horse than jurancon, by a considerable amount.

    His last 2 victories have been nothing that wasnt expected, but the impression he has left is their is plenty more to come. And he is a very quick horse when he has had to be, very quick.

    On a line through good and clever he has a bit to find with miami magic today, but i think that one has been fully tested and we know his limit, whereas i think theres good reason to believe tripoli can be a minimum mid 140s horse, im hoping much more.

    I havent bet him for the supreme as a single, yet, but i have had a big bet on him today, and ive also doubled him up with jurancon 14/1 for the morebattle for a 59/1 double.
    Another fucking getaway . What universe have I entered

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  • AaronLad
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    I really like the chances of Tripoli flyer in the dovecote today, and I think he's going to put in a performance to take serious note of.

    He probably first showed his potential in the bumper at Aintree grand national meeting, finishing 2nd after hitting the front 3f out, which was ultimately too soon but was a result of just how well he was travelling.
    He got beat by his stablemate and I got the feeling fergal was slightly surprised which of his won, that's how highly I feel he rates Tripoli.
    The right horses finished 3rd and 4th that day, with good and clever running with credit in grade 1s and valgrand well fancied for the county off 134 this season.
    His stablemate ,horaces pearl who won ,also remains unbeaten, however hasnt been seen since winning on hurdle debut.

    On Tripolis hurdle debut he was ridden just off the pace the leader set with the front 3 some 25 lengths ahead around the halfway mark.
    ​​Jurancon and tripoli flyer easily picked off the pace setter and carried on the battle up the run in.
    Jurancon clearly working the harder of the 2.
    Jurancon jumped across tripoli flyer at the last flight and with that his chances were probably gone.
    I felt that Johnny Burke was wary of getting to the front too soon with him on this occasion after what had happened at Aintree and i think he is a better horse than jurancon, by a considerable amount.

    His last 2 victories have been nothing that wasnt expected, but the impression he has left is their is plenty more to come. And he is a very quick horse when he has had to be, very quick.

    On a line through good and clever he has a bit to find with miami magic today, but i think that one has been fully tested and we know his limit, whereas i think theres good reason to believe tripoli can be a minimum mid 140s horse, im hoping much more.

    I havent bet him for the supreme as a single, yet, but i have had a big bet on him today, and ive also doubled him up with jurancon 14/1 for the morebattle for a 59/1 double.

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  • Killiney
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    Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
    Interesting enough race the Supreme I reckon. You can use William Munny as a boost for Workahead and Kopek if you really want to. In fact you can make Workahead look a huge price if you wanted to

    Think William Munny is learning though isn't he. I'd quit like him to be a good one. Even though I'd already cashed out my Supreme bet on him at a loss...
    I think he looked a totally different horse yesterday. On previous runs seeing him in the frame was difficult but yesterday he looked much more like the real deal. I’m not sure it can be used as a boost for those ahead of him in previous runs though as this performance was so much better.
    Last edited by Killiney; 21 February 2025, 09:49 PM.

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  • BigChaang
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    Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post



    I'm just glad William Munny is a player again.... I think he was my first bet for this festival and looked a busted flush at one point
    Likewise here ... .

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  • Kevloaf
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    The Maughreen hurdles form gets tested tomorrow, with Familiar Dreams (14:50 Punchestown) even money against a couple of Willie horses

    Or the Sixandahalf flat form


    Either way, hoping for a win!

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  • Carnage at Taunton
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    Not going to say which is more likely to be win the Supreme , but I’m confident Romeo could have done what WM did today.
    Main thing imo is we have another player in the race after today.
    50 wtaf was quite generous I thought.
    Might add a bit e/w as well.

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  • Guinness Village
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    I wouldn’t fancy a winner of a maiden hurdle, that hasn’t even contested a graded race for the supreme. If William hill go 7 places, then I think they’ve both got a chance of placing
    the top 3 in the betting are there on merit.
    personally think that coolio has a great chance. Grade 1 winner, festival placed.

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  • AnFiieLD.
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    Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

    Il take the grade 1 winner with track form you can have the maiden hurdle winner and the horse 1 from 3 over hurdles

    Munny does look like a good place chance if he's ridden cold and picks up the pieces

    Romeo coolio will be ridden forward i imagine so will either run a stormer or get caught in a pace battle and be paddling coming up the hill
    I personally thought the G1 he won was worse in quality than some maiden hurdles ran this season - a grade 1 in name rather than nature. A number of non jiggers in behind him that day

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  • FinalFurlong91
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    Originally posted by AnFiieLD. View Post
    Enjoyed the performance of William Munny there. Right now, Romeo Coolio would be one of the worst priced horses of the festival for me. I'd much rather Munny and Workahead to Romeo from a hurdles form perspective
    Il take the grade 1 winner with track form you can have the maiden hurdle winner and the horse 1 from 3 over hurdles

    Munny does look like a good place chance if he's ridden cold and picks up the pieces

    Romeo coolio will be ridden forward i imagine so will either run a stormer or get caught in a pace battle and be paddling coming up the hill

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  • Lobos
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    Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
    Given Tullyhill won the same race today and went off fav in the Supreme

    The 25/1 ante post price for William Munny has some juice in it still?

    20/1 NRNB is fair enough too

    Hard to get away from the form line ..... will certainly be popular in the next couple of weeks



    I'm just glad William Munny is a player again.... I think he was my first bet for this festival and looked a busted flush at one point
    Still reckon Munny will go off single figures on the day so agree 20/1 NRMB seems very fair !

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  • archie
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    Originally posted by AnFiieLD. View Post
    Enjoyed the performance of William Munny there. Right now, Romeo Coolio would be one of the worst priced horses of the festival for me. I'd much rather Munny and Workahead to Romeo from a hurdles form perspective
    Absolutely. I can't have a Kayf Tara that couldn't win the Royal Bond as any kind of value at 6/1.

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  • Eggs
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    An emotional Connell said: “The first thing I want to say is that we’re all thinking about Michael and his family today. This is the first winner in those colours since.

    "This horse has been doing everything wrong in his hurdle races. He’s been way too keen, making mistakes and he’s still running to figures to suggest that he’s there or thereabouts winning a Supreme Novices’ Hurdle.

    “Today he settled away better and jumped better. He has so much natural ability this horse that he can’t understand why the riders want to take him back. He’s hardly having a blow there today, that was his last piece of work before the Supreme.

    “He’s put himself right in the picture there.

    “We (also) have Marine Nationale for the Champion Chase and Nine Graces for the Kim Muir. Marine Nationale came out of his last run at Leopardstown excellent. He’s improving 10lb every time he runs because he’s effectively a novice.

    “I think he will step forward. He loves the spring and he’s a course and distance winner on the Old course and his temperament is bombproof. When he won the Supreme Novice it rained a lot the night before and the ground was tacky but better ground would be a help.

    “I wouldn’t swap him for anything in the race, I think he’s definitely the best Irish horse going over there, whether he beats Jonbon or not is another matter but he’s in great nick."

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  • Kevloaf
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    Given Tullyhill won the same race today and went off fav in the Supreme

    The 25/1 ante post price for William Munny has some juice in it still?

    20/1 NRNB is fair enough too

    Hard to get away from the form line ..... will certainly be popular in the next couple of weeks



    I'm just glad William Munny is a player again.... I think he was my first bet for this festival and looked a busted flush at one point

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  • AnFiieLD.
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    Enjoyed the performance of William Munny there. Right now, Romeo Coolio would be one of the worst priced horses of the festival for me. I'd much rather Munny and Workahead to Romeo from a hurdles form perspective

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  • TigerRolllllll
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    Both Supreme (in particular) and Turners look really good renewals

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