2025 Novice Hurdlers

[HoldenTheReins]

100/1 gone both supreme and ballymore

33s best now supreme
40s best ballymore

How would you personally rank Kel Historie vs Kawaboomga?

[darlojim]

How would you personally rank Kel Historie vs Kawaboomga?

Personally, I'd have Kel Histoire ahead of Kawa (maybe slight bias )

Both have very solid form from France, being franked plenty with horses in behind, and infront in Kawaboomga's case.

Kawa we have at least seen hurdling, Kel we are yet to do so

Hopefully any sort of mention from Willie for both in the stable tours, otherwise it could be a year held back, although Kel Histoire bought in Nov '23 so highly doubt he will be held back any further.

[Yosser]

Personally, I'd have Kel Histoire ahead of Kawa (maybe slight bias )

Both have very solid form from France, being franked plenty with horses in behind, and infront in Kawaboomga's case.

Kawa we have at least seen hurdling, Kel we are yet to do so

Hopefully any sort of mention from Willie for both in the stable tours, otherwise it could be a year held back, although Kel Histoire bought in Nov '23 so highly doubt he will be held back any further.

Could Kawa be used as the Boodles horse in you opinion Darlo? Or would it be a waste of potential. In so far as he probably is grade 1 material.

[HoldenTheReins]

Could Kawa be used as the Boodles horse in you opinion Darlo? Or would it be a waste of potential. In so far as he probably is grade 1 material.

Kawaboomga is already 4 so will be 5 next year and therefore ineligible to run in a 4yo race.

[darlojim]

Could Kawa be used as the Boodles horse in you opinion Darlo? Or would it be a waste of potential. In so far as he probably is grade 1 material.

Kawaboomga is a 4yo going 5 Yosser

[Yosser]

Kawaboomga is already 4 so will be 5 next year and therefore ineligible to run in a 4yo race.

Well spotted

What a poser then. Very interesting regarding stable tours now then. He isn't listed on my bookie. I suppose the same question still applies re handicaps but he will be wanting an early enough entry and thats not Willies MO and he has only had the 1 run thus far

[Lobos]

kawaBOOMga!!!!!!

[Lobos]

How would you personally rank Kel Historie vs Kawaboomga?

Kawaboomga has a far better name

You can just hear the shout now

[darlojim]

Kawaboomga has a far better name

You can just hear the shout now

Kel Histoire translates to What a story

And what a story it would be

[Lobos]

Kawaboomga is already 4 so will be 5 next year and therefore ineligible to run in a 4yo race.

He's still in the betting for the Mares Novice Hurdle.

[HoldenTheReins]

He's still in the betting for the Mares Novice Hurdle.

He can identify as a mare nowadays I guess

[Lobos]

Kel Histoire translates to What a story

And what a story it would be

Kawaboomga translates to a 100/1 winner at the Fez.....or BOOM in English

[Yosser]

Kawaboomga gets a good mention from Tony Mullins here

That 100/1 wont be around for long

https://x.com/AtTheRaces/status/1848804012390232186

Just watched this show. It's usually a laboured watch for me with either Mick Fitz of Blakey but i thought Tony Mullins was top notch.

And is Matt Chapman taking the piss with his 'Novice Prospect' horse. Someone has asked him to say that surely

[Wayward Lad]

Seeing the price movement of Kawaboomga overnight following Tony Mullins ‘At the Races’ interview……doesn’t it show us how scared the bookmakers are of views and intel from racing people or pundits with ante post and how easily they slash prices as a result?……if only other horses went out in price as a result eh!

I dont think for one minute that the price reductions across the board on oddschecker have come from weight of money or liabilities, as most people will have only had a interest at such large odds on Tony Mullins view. It’s the traders following other traders like the herd mentality which is difficult to profit from because the market just adds % to bookmakers profitability rather than lengthen a few as a result and keep their overound the same.

The age old war between punters and bookmakers maybe…… but they sure react to any favourable view/intel at the moment. In boxing terms they seem to react to any feints let alone a punch being thrown !

[jrjr]

There was a discussion on here in the spring about Good N’Kind (for the Gallagher) after he’d debuted quite impressively in the Bob Olinger bumper. Obv Port Julain didn’t do that justice in his next run.. Noted Henry described GNK as a ‘staying type’ and his hurdle debut would be over ‘at least 2 and a half’. Possible Bartlett type (currently 50/1).