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2025 Novice Hurdlers

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  • FredFlintstone
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    Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
    So the supreme is a race that ive strangely not had any interest or view on until now. Im still in shock I havent had a bet in it yet, its almost worrying.

    Anyway this morning I have had a tidal wave of thoughts towards SMundi. This horse has been FAV for most of the season right and I can only just think he hasn't had his ideal ground yet and obviously Sir Gino has one hell of a reputation. Whats the views on waiting for a price chaps ?

    I feel like actually the attention of KDB has done a huge favour to my perspective today. I am almost imagining that the DRF didnt happen and the mullins camp had the same views on their leading contender. Everything went wrong in the moscow but still won, listening back to pauls views after the race again give me alot of confidence.
    I'd be massively concerned Patrick Mullins rides him. Surely you have to wait for jockey bookings now?

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  • JamieSensible
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    Does anyone know the well being of Inn at the Park? And if he's going to go to the Albert Bartlett?

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  • punterorplonker
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    So the supreme is a race that ive strangely not had any interest or view on until now. Im still in shock I havent had a bet in it yet, its almost worrying.

    Anyway this morning I have had a tidal wave of thoughts towards SMundi. This horse has been FAV for most of the season right and I can only just think he hasn't had his ideal ground yet and obviously Sir Gino has one hell of a reputation. Whats the views on waiting for a price chaps ?

    I feel like actually the attention of KDB has done a huge favour to my perspective today. I am almost imagining that the DRF didnt happen and the mullins camp had the same views on their leading contender. Everything went wrong in the moscow but still won, listening back to pauls views after the race again give me alot of confidence.

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  • AaronLad
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    Turners Novices hurdle.

    The front 2 in the market final demand and the néw lion both have a couple of long losing streaks to break.
    The new lion has the hoodoo of being the challow winner to break, its been so long, it almost seems inevitable that he will be beaten.
    final demand would have to be the first horse since mikael d'hagenuet in 2009 to not have run in a NHF race(bumper), every winner since has not only ran in a bumper but has won one.
    How significant is it? How many have tried?
    Well I was prepared to have a thorough look back, but the first renewal i went to was when impaire et passe won, hermes allen 9/4 fav and gaelic warrior 4/1, both fancied, no bumper runs between them, both beaten.

    Last season Ballyburn restored the p2p/bumper/graded hurdle trend? That was appearing more regularly in the recent winners, of course impaire et passe had bucked that trend but its still very strong in recent years. 6 from the last 10 winners.

    So why is bumper form so important?
    Is it because they're mostly run at around the 2mile mark, generally needing a bit of pace to win one.
    Bumpers can become quite tactical with no obstacles to jump, is this an important experience with regards to how the turners is usually run, tactical speed is certainly an advantage.

    Sixmilebridge, started his career in the p2p sphere, having 2 runs in 4yrold maidens.
    He was with Ben Pauling last season winning a bumper at Sandown before being well beaten in the champion bumper at cheltenham.
    During the summer the megsons decided to move their horses from the ben pauling yard and sixmilebridge ended up at fergal o'briens, he had wind surgery in august.

    He started his hurdling career over 2miles, ridden in touch with leaders and staying on at the finish just not reaching the winner.
    stepped up in trip on his 2nd start, he led after the 1st and duly won with ease.
    He made all again on his 3rd start over hurdles winning comfortably and earning a step up in grade.

    Cheltenham for trials day against Potters charm in the Grade 2 classic novices hurdle.
    He again made all, briefly headed 2 out, but showing a real good attitude to pull clear on the run in, over the turners course and distance. Potters charm carrying a 5lb penalty, but easily swatted aside.

    Since joining fergal, he had his wind op. He has also wore a tongue tie in each of his races. On his last run i'd say both are/have worked an absolute treat.
    Since a change in how he is ridden he has thrived, he loves to gallop out in front and make it a proper test.

    The last British trained horse to win the turners was Willoughby court. He made all to win that year, just kept galloping to the line.

    Sixmilebridge p2p Runs, tick, won a bumper tick, graded hurdle form, tick.







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  • Kevloaf
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    Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
    I can very much see William Munny being the sentimental bet for the Supreme and him going off a lot shorter than he currently is.
    Same colours Michael O'Sullivan won the race in, a lot of ITV coverage will happen about it too, I suspect.
    Be even better when he wins it

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  • Kevloaf
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    Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

    Unfortunately jurancon not declared for the Morebattle. My fears were realised and he's opted for Newbury.
    Apologies to anyone who followed me in on the related double with Tripoli flyer last weekend.
    As Meatloaf sings,

    Life is a lemon, and I want my money back

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  • FinalFurlong91
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    Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
    New Lion. I didnt pick up on this during the quotes until now, but he refered to him as like a remote control car. Thats a bit mad no ? Thats quite a statement.
    If you ride him through a puddle he stops working completely? Let's hope it's dry ground then

    In all seriousness this looks like the year that the Challow hoodoo is going to get broken to me

    Think he has a better turn of foot than final demand and the yellow clay

    I was kind of hoping he'd drift but that doesn't look like happening especially with kawaboomga out

    Was hoping I'd get 4s or 5s on the machine on the day

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  • EnvoiAlien
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    Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
    New Lion. I didnt pick up on this during the quotes until now, but he refered to him as like a remote control car. Thats a bit mad no ? Thats quite a statement.
    Push button ride, does exactly as directed with minimum of resistance.

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  • ComplyOrDie
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    I can very much see William Munny being the sentimental bet for the Supreme and him going off a lot shorter than he currently is.
    Same colours Michael O'Sullivan won the race in, a lot of ITV coverage will happen about it too, I suspect.

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  • Many Clouds
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    Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
    New Lion. I didnt pick up on this during the quotes until now, but he refered to him as like a remote control car. Thats a bit mad no ? Thats quite a statement.
    Gonna break n put in the bin after a few goes?

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  • punterorplonker
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    New Lion. I didnt pick up on this during the quotes until now, but he refered to him as like a remote control car. Thats a bit mad no ? Thats quite a statement.

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  • AaronLad
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    Originally posted by AaronLad View Post


    Hopefully hes declared tomorrow, he also has an entry at newbury which had dampened my enthusiasm slightly already

    We'll See how it plays out
    Unfortunately jurancon not declared for the Morebattle. My fears were realised and he's opted for Newbury.
    Apologies to anyone who followed me in on the related double with Tripoli flyer last weekend.

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  • Eggs
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    ’Derryhassen Paddy is in the Albert Bartlett Novices’ Hurdle, and we had intended running him at Haydock, but the ground was too fast. He had plenty of ability and I would say at this stage he is as good a horse as Brindisi Breeze who won the Albert Bartlett for us. We think he is a really good horse. (Peter Scudamore, assistant to Lucinda Russell)​

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  • Guinness Village
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    Originally posted by Ice View Post
    The yellow clay going turners.
    To quote a fellow…sweet cherry nipples

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  • AaronLad
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    Originally posted by Wayward Lad View Post

    Dineen and Jennings have both tipped Juracon for the Morebattle this weekend

    Hopefully hes declared tomorrow, he also has an entry at newbury which had dampened my enthusiasm slightly already

    We'll See how it plays out

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