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2025 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

    This by someone who can be trusted? Seems to be varying bits of information coming out about him thats for sure
    yes it would be

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    • What price would TYC be if trained by Mullins?? He's been brilliant this season. 4/4. Immaculate.

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      • Originally posted by Big Zeb View Post

        yes it would be
        Cheers BZ. Plenty of value left in the Supreme then !!

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        • If Mundi isn't ready enough to get entries in January they've been held up in working him at home as based off the stable tours he's been back in since October,maybe a little earlier,if you can't get one ready to race in 12 weeks you're not a trainer,let alone a multiple times champion.

          The only question left is...is it growing pains/weakness or an injury holding them up.

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          • As much as mullins is class, they got form for this sort of stuff and not being transparent with punters, its not like a random horse, its the anye post favourite for the supreme why does no one ask him anything about him?!

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            • One more run and straight to the Supreme wouldn't bother me in the slightest with SM.

              I think people are panicking over nothing. If he hasn't run by first weekend on Feb, then I'll start to get worried.

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              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                One more run and straight to the Supreme wouldn't bother me in the slightest with SM.

                I think people are panicking over nothing. If he hasn't run by first weekend on Feb, then I'll start to get worried.
                You thinking they'll pitch him in at the DRF Dave?

                Couldn't see it personally with Kopek heading that way already.

                If hes no entry on Tuesday, I'd be pretty worried

                He was hard enough to get right last season, and clearly everything hasnt gone to plan with him this season either.

                The Royal Bond, Xmas, Munster Hdle & Moscow Flyer would have all been suitable starting points for him, and if he's in none of those, that would worry me (and I'm invested in him, albeit reduced after his Xmas omission)

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                • More on the Romeo for me!!
                  as an aside, I often nail my colours to the mast and win or fall accordingly. If one of my fancies gets pushed out, I often back again. I couldn’t believe that both Romeo and clay were both 20/1 after their penultimate starts. Equally, today I’ve topped up on Firefox at 25/1. I can recall he ran a stinker at this meeting last year, before coming to life at the spring festivals.
                  after Lossie getting beaten at Christmas, 8/1 ew for churdle looked a gift.

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                  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                    You thinking they'll pitch him in at the DRF Dave?

                    Couldn't see it personally with Kopek heading that way already.

                    If hes no entry on Tuesday, I'd be pretty worried

                    He was hard enough to get right last season, and clearly everything hasnt gone to plan with him this season either.

                    The Royal Bond, Xmas, Munster Hdle & Moscow Flyer would have all been suitable starting points for him, and if he's in none of those, that would worry me (and I'm invested in him, albeit reduced after his Xmas omission)
                    I haven't looked at the programme book, but wouldn't think DRF is where they'd want to start out.

                    He has plenty of experience so they just need to blow away the cobwebs before the Supreme.

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                    • From what we've seen of Willies so far he may think Mundi is the best he has . If that's the case then pitching him in the deep end first time in the DRF wouldn't worry him. Half the runners in the race would probably be in the same yard anyway. If he was in the same form as his maiden demolition then nothing would get close to him. If however he doesn't make the Fez then that'll be a huge boost for others we have all backed.

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                      • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
                        More on the Romeo for me!!
                        as an aside, I often nail my colours to the mast and win or fall accordingly. If one of my fancies gets pushed out, I often back again. I couldn’t believe that both Romeo and clay were both 20/1 after their penultimate starts. Equally, today I’ve topped up on Firefox at 25/1. I can recall he ran a stinker at this meeting last year, before coming to life at the spring festivals.
                        after Lossie getting beaten at Christmas, 8/1 ew for churdle looked a gift.
                        Agree. There's always a silver lining with a lot of these so called big gun defeats.

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                        • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                          I haven't looked at the programme book, but wouldn't think DRF is where they'd want to start out.

                          He has plenty of experience so they just need to blow away the cobwebs before the Supreme.
                          Can't think of too many more options - there's that listed race Tullyhill went to prior to his Supreme, but I'm sure Willie mentioned that as being too close to the festival in his review of Tullyhills performance. Others might know of different options

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                          • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                            I haven't looked at the programme book, but wouldn't think DRF is where they'd want to start out.

                            He has plenty of experience so they just need to blow away the cobwebs before the Supreme.
                            The only other novice hurdle race over 2 to 2.5 miles between the Moscow Flyer and Cheltenham is the Sheila Bourke at Punchestown on the 15th Feb. The race Tullyhill ran in last year. That’s too close for Willie in usual circumstances.

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                            • Watched TYC race back again. He destroyed them really. Had the race covered/won from some way out. Has a mix of speed and stamina and jumps economically. Tough as you like. Definitely a player in both races. Probably be Turners if Soft and Albert if the sun comes out.

                              Paul knew his fate a long way out on Jasmine and didn't kill him to get involved late on so perhaps he'll look a different horse at the DRF. Worth another chance.

                              The 2nd horse would be a big player in the Albert imo. Ran on really well without troubling the winner and clearly will benefit from the experience.

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                              • They could put him in open grade if needed. The Limestone Lad is on 26th. Usually needs a decent performance to win it though.

                                ​​​​​​In Feb, there's the novice Tullyhill won at Punchestown about 4 weeks before Cheltenham.

                                Rossington Main novice at Haydock on 18th but if he isn't ready for the Moscow Flyer, he won't be ready 6 days later. A few races available in England for him if they don't mind coming across

                                The other thing is to just throw him into a 2m handicap hurdle. Plenty of those.

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