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2025 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
    In my industry.

    JP McManus would be classed as a vulnerable client, and if after prompting him to have a friend or family present ?
    He opted to bring his friend Frank Berry.

    Our firm would refuse to do business with them.

    His fucking mansion must be full of fucking readers digest's and coin collections.
    That's if you only view his aim as buying to win a race rather than buying them to win money. He's playing 4D chess

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    • Originally posted by EnvoiAlien View Post

      Problem with schooling JDV now is once hurdlers get into that slobbish way of hurdling it's very tough to get them out of it,sometimes you're better sending them over a fence so they learn to pick their feet up again,can you do that then run them over hurdles still...not really,maybe the ground made it even harder for him today but for me after watching 2 starts,I'll not back him until he goes novice chasing (watch him go with two Grade 1's over hurdles to finish the season now )
      They might school him over fences

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      • No - being backed now so maybe bartlett it is

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        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
          Willie doesn't sound very confident in jasmin de vaux

          Not convinced by his jumping at all and was unable to do as much schooling as he wanted due to a small overreach
          Did Willie say that or Ruby?

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          • Turners hurdle for The Yellow Clay Gordon says

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

              Yeah, not great. Willie made excuses pre race, can only hope they school the hell out of him pre festival and he comes on bundles, it's the only hope really. Glad Paul didn't give him a hard time though. Save him for the day. Think he'll still go Turners, personally. That was a fair slog out there today.

              Hoping AB for The Yellow Clay. Owners said so last time, hopefully Gordon comes out and says the same now too.

              Straight there now too, is the hope!
              I took 40/1 to win today and the Turners but hope they go AB with him. He'll have a decent chance whichever route they go down.

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              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                Not sure what they do with Jasmin after that. It looked to me like he was terrified of every hurdle. He jumped 3 or 4 ok, the rest he lost ground at.

                The Yellow Clay goes where now? Hopefully it's the AB
                50/50 Turners and AB imo
                Not very helpful I know, but I can see reasoning for both.

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                • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                  I took 40/1 to win today and the Turners but hope they go AB with him. He'll have a decent chance whichever route they go down.
                  Turners Gordon just said on RTV

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                  • Would still like to see him go Supreme in a poor year. Travelled on the pace fine today and no issues with seeing the trip out at a good gallop. Waste of talent going for the AB!

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                    • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                      Turners Gordon just said on RTV
                      Fucking brilliant news for my book that.
                      He's no chance in the turners. IMO

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        They might school him over fences
                        They might as well,like I say they get used to a lazy style then they lose respect for the obstacles,he'll just hurdle a bit big in the early part of his races

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                        • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                          Turners Gordon just said on RTV
                          Makes sense to me, and GE knows what it takes to win that race. Didn't look like a horse that needed stepping up in trip on today's showing.

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                          • The New Lion and Potters Charm have shortened after that race. If Kopek doesn't improve his jumping he could be the same as Jasmine(and that's if he goes for the Turners) so the Turners could be going to the British which is such a very strange thing to think...

                            Moscow Flyer is next Saturday, anyone heard of any news regarding Salvator?

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                            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                              Whats Gordon said ?
                              Don't look like its definite bartlett looking at exchange
                              He’s just said the Turners

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                              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                                Fucking brilliant news for my book that.
                                He's no chance in the turners. IMO
                                Agree. I'd be of the view the form of today's race was relatively poor given the proximity of Supersundae (gave them a lead with a view to handicapping imo) and wingmen

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