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Bob Olinger won this on heavy - didn't do him any harm as a Turners trial.
Willie couldn't care less about TNL. If he thinks JDV is his best chance at the Turners, he goes there. He's got others who will want the Bartlett test more than a horse who's shown a good turn of foot in his 3 wins.
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Originally posted by DenmanSacre View PostBob Olinger won this on heavy - didn't do him any harm as a Turners trial.
Willie couldn't care less about TNL. If he thinks JDV is his best chance at the Turners, he goes there. He's got others who will want the Bartlett test more than a horse who's shown a good turn of foot in his 3 wins.
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Originally posted by Exar Essay View PostThe Yellow Clay seems strangely solid in the betting. Gordon had definitely said he’s a good ground horse previously.
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
Today's conditions will be stamina sapping and he has plenty of that . Also he clearly has the stand out form so far this season of the bunch today.
Made him my biggest winner of the race so far, that said, I could do with him not beating Jasmin today!
Connections of TYC have said he'll go for the Bartlett anyway, by the sounds of it.
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Originally posted by DenmanSacre View PostBob Olinger won this on heavy - didn't do him any harm as a Turners trial.
Willie couldn't care less about TNL. If he thinks JDV is his best chance at the Turners, he goes there. He's got others who will want the Bartlett test more than a horse who's shown a good turn of foot in his 3 wins.
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Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
Yeah, been banging TYC drum for a while now. Still think he's very good value for the Bartlett having followed a similar route as Ginto/Death Duty and both of them went off short enough!
Made him my biggest winner of the race so far, that said, I could do with him not beating Jasmin today!
Connections of TYC have said he'll go for the Bartlett anyway, by the sounds of it.
Personally think TYC should be fav today on what he's shown so far.
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
Willie has consistently said JDV is a stayer so we'll see today. If the race is run at a good clip and he slogs on through the mud to win then the Albert will definitely be under consideration. He does have Kopek, Kel Histoire, Kawaboomga and possibly a couple others who could all run big races in the Turners.
This is a key trial for a Turners, albeit not used by Willie much, however he did send Next Destination & Champ Kiely, in recent seasons, to the Turners after winning it.
Of the last 10 winners of the race, 5 ended up in the Turners, 2 winners, 2 placed and 1 pulled up who was never travelling!
2 of the last 10 winners went to the Bartlett, both trained by Gordon.
In recent years Willie hasn't sent a winner to the Bartlett after winning this, this includes Next Destination who won it on soft/heavy.
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
Funny how Mullins so say uses this race for his Turners horses and Gordon for his Albert horses. One of them must be wrong
Personally think TYC should be fav today on what he's shown so far.
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