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[Saxon Warrior]

Why he be going 3m 6f? Gold Cup is 3m 2f

(and a half to be exact, I think they claim)

Because the Grand Steeplechase Paris in France, is the equivalent of the Cheltenham Gold Cup.

Its the pinnacle Chase in the country, the most sought after NH race, and worth similar to the Cheltenham Gold Cup.

The horse was bred in France by an owner/breeder who has never won the Grand Steeplechase and dearly wants to.

So he only sold a half-share to a British owner on the basis that all roads lead to the Grand Steeplechase this season.

That race has been won a 5yo and 6yo the last two years, which is younger than horses in GB/IRE win the Cheltenham Gold Cup.

So Ile Est Francais being a 6yo and a relative novice (in our terms) is not unusual in the Grand Steeplechase

The agreement between the Co-owners is France for the biggest prize there at 6, and then GB for the two top prizes in the country next season.

I really hope the French owner/breeder gets the prize he most wants in May, and the excitement will then mount for Kempton at Christmas, then Cheltenham in March.

[Benjy23]

Right, I think the bet posted was a King George and Gold Cup double though? So the comment kind of threw me on lack of context

I think the point was probably if he's beaten before than the 12s wouldn't look great value?

[Eggs]

…Lads;

Ballyburn BANC/GC 33-1

[CJW]

…Lads;

Ballyburn BANC/GC 33-1

Looks a trap to me. Poor odds unless your a romantic and just want the bet now.

[Saxon Warrior]

Right, I think the bet posted was a King George and Gold Cup double though? So the comment kind of threw me on lack of context

I think the point was probably if he's beaten before than the 12s wouldn't look great value?

I picked up on your short comment on why would he be going 3M6F - so my answer was - it’s because the biggest Chase in France is 3M6F

I didn’t notice if your comment linked back to the KG/Gold Cup price - apologies

But in that context, those KG/G.Cup prices are pretty pointless when he’s 10s for the Gold Cup

[Eggs]

….Lads;

Ballyburn Turn/GC 20-1

[Eggs]

…Sky;

Gaelic; KG/Ry 16-1; KG/GC 40-1

[Eggs]

….Hills Saturday;

Il est Francais & KG 5/2; & GC 10-1; & KG/GC 16-1

[Lobos]

…Sky;

Gaelic; KG/Ry 16-1; KG/GC 40-1

Does anyone think GW will go KG??

[Carnage at Taunton]

Does anyone think GW will go KG??

I would be a lot more interested in a Tingle Creek/ Queen Mother

[FinalFurlong91]

I would be a lot more interested in a Tingle Creek/ Queen Mother

I'd imagine he's fairly likely to start in the john durkan

[Eggs]

….PP offer;

Ile est Francais KG/GC 14-1

[Eggs]

….Ladbrokes;

Impaire et Passe; Aintree Hd & Turn 33-1 (35-1 with boost)

[Eggs]

….Hills Thurs;

Grey Dawning & Ry 16-1; GC 20-1
Ginny’s & Ry 40-1; GC 66-1
IET & Ry 40-1; CC 66-1
Kargese & CH 66-1
Sir Gino & CH 25-1; Ark 12-1
Kalif & Ark 40-1
BMG & Ry 66-1; GC 100-1
Corbett’s & GC 33-1
GMG & GC 150-1
Gerri & GC 20-1
Shishkin & GC 50-1

Note; Gerri GC is 20-1 with 365.

[Stormez]

….Hills Thurs;

Grey Dawning & Ry 16-1; GC 20-1
Ginny’s & Ry 40-1; GC 66-1
IET & Ry 40-1; CC 66-1
Kargese & CH 66-1
Sir Gino & CH 25-1; Ark 12-1
Kalif & Ark 40-1
BMG & Ry 66-1; GC 100-1
Corbett’s & GC 33-1
GMG & GC 150-1
Gerri & GC 20-1
Shishkin & GC 50-1

Note; Gerri GC is 20-1 with 365.

Was hoping for a price on Impaire Et Passé but they don’t seem to have bothered with that race.