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Handicap Yankee 2024 - Captain: somer1

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Quevega View Post
    I think there are reasonable reasons to not include Crebilly & Iknowthewayourthinking if the bets are being placed on Sunday.
    They look very much like they have topped out the prices

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    Just on this, the Sunday deadline was introduced some years ago so those travelling to Cheltenham could get sight of all the yankees in the event they couldn't access FJ, in reality I think everyone probably can now but the Sunday deadline has remained.
    Your point is valid re value but there's no obligation to play the yankees on Sunday, I'll be adding them each raceday morning when, as you suggest, there will be better value and generally enhanced places....

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

      Just on this, the Sunday deadline was introduced some years ago so those travelling to Cheltenham could get sight of all the yankees in the event they couldn't access FJ, in reality I think everyone probably can now but the Sunday deadline has remained.
      Your point is valid re value but there's no obligation to play the yankees on Sunday, I'll be adding them each raceday morning when, as you suggest, there will be better value and generally enhanced places....
      good point.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Quevega View Post
        I think there are reasonable reasons to not include Crebilly & Iknowthewayourthinking if the bets are being placed on Sunday.

        They look very much like they have topped out the prices, and Jonjo just can't be totally trusted these days IMO. And although I can see the merits for Iknow, he was well backed at Dublin off a slightly lower mark and was well beat. They fancied him for that and he didn't deliver. Added to this, he was second choice to Perceval before his mark scuppered his participation.

        Leau du Sud looks rock solid now as he may be Skeltons only runner in a race he has farmed and the form of the betfair is usually solid, he ran on the wrong part of the track and the winner is thought good enough to supplement for the CH.

        Goffer looks like he would run a solid race also.
        Agree with Q on all of this...

        Leau du sud and the Goffer are standouts in the handicaps for me. Grand Annual has to be on the radar too given how hard some of the other handicaps are, my personal choice would be In Excelsis Deo. Great form at the track, much better at the weights than the likes of Madada, I think he's still a great bet. Written a full case elsewhere...

        I'd probably be choosing from either coral cup or pertemps as my last choice, probably easier of the handicaps remaining. Built By Ballymore and Icare Allen/Le Milos would get my votes in those two.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post

          Agree with Q on all of this...

          Leau du sud and the Goffer are standouts in the handicaps for me. Grand Annual has to be on the radar too given how hard some of the other handicaps are, my personal choice would be In Excelsis Deo. Great form at the track, much better at the weights than the likes of Madada, I think he's still a great bet. Written a full case elsewhere...

          I'd probably be choosing from either coral cup or pertemps as my last choice, probably easier of the handicaps remaining. Built By Ballymore and Icare Allen/Le Milos would get my votes in those two.
          Yeah, I like all of them.

          Le Milos less so as his hurdles mark and form is less of a credit than Gabbies and Foxy Jacks IMO and they both qualified in proper races and not a 5 runner jog round market rasen.

          The other doubt I have on him is the reason he's not ran over fences and is not going for the National seems to revolve around a knee injury, but I don't know the full facts.
          No matter how well handicapped Dan might think he is over hurdles I can't see why they would forego the chance of another stab at the National, And why bother entering anyhow ?

          I Do have him at 40-1 though so if he is in contention I'll be cheering on Milo for sure.
          Much prefer Gabbies though as she is a much bigger return. Race will suit perfectly IMO.

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          • #35
            Very good points re LDS. You've sucked me in. As you say, Skelton owns the County Hurdle.

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            • #36
              Last bump i'm giving this thread.

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              • #37
                Going against the Naiad here but for me Stumptown is a great leg @ 10/1. I thought his run LTO was superb and he'll do a Beware The Bear who did the trials day Ultima double back in 2019. I don't think we've seen the best of Stumptown yet and GC is a sneaky bastard at concealing ability. He carried 11-11 on trials day and won posting an RPR of 151. He'll carry 11-9 next week and I really like his course form. It was a really good run in the KM at 6 and he's only 7, so could well be improving. Blinkers have made a huge difference to his jumping and if they have the same effect next week I cannot see him out the frame.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by charlie View Post
                  Going against the Naiad here but for me Stumptown is a great leg @ 10/1. I thought his run LTO was superb and he'll do a Beware The Bear who did the trials day Ultima double back in 2019. I don't think we've seen the best of Stumptown yet and GC is a sneaky bastard at concealing ability. He carried 11-11 on trials day and won posting an RPR of 151. He'll carry 11-9 next week and I really like his course form. It was a really good run in the KM at 6 and he's only 7, so could well be improving. Blinkers have made a huge difference to his jumping and if they have the same effect next week I cannot see him out the frame.
                  Hope not with one of his owners currently under arrest here.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Irish Rugby View Post

                    Hope not with one of his owners currently under arrest here.
                    Who cares, not the horses fault.

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                    • #40
                      Scumbag drug dealer owner. Allegedly

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                      • #41
                        I've just had a look through some of the comments here.

                        Ultima - The Goffer although people will have plenty on from the Naiad and he might be in the day 1 version so don't know if you'd want to go elsewhere.
                        Pertemps - Icare Allen looks solid
                        County - Leau Du Sud looks solid, but Absurde could be very interesting if it's good-ish ground
                        Coral - Sa Majeste looks solid assuming he goes this way

                        But they are all poor-ish prices so do you want more of a flyer in there?
                        Boodles - Ose Partir mentioned
                        Pipe - Nusret mentioned
                        Grand Annual - Denman Sacres case for Madara was surprisingly convincing to me despite only being 3 lines - he could replace The Goffer or Sa Majeste?

                        I agree with the comments about Crebilly and Inothewayurthinking if people are placing bets on Sunday, but there's no reason why the yankee can't include them and people can't wait until Tuesday morning decs to place

                        In truth, not sure I've been too helpful with those comments, but wanted to feel like I'd contributed

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
                          Ones I like who are still not too short.

                          The Goffer - Ultima
                          Built By Ballymore - Coral Cup
                          Icare Allen- Pertemps
                          L'Eau Du Sud- County

                          Could easily switch Goffer with Amirite who I think is still a big price at 16s with 365.
                          Still very much liking this but would swap Icare Allen for Waterford Whispers now that it looks he'll make the cut for the Martin Pipe. Wouldn't surprise me to see him go off fav for that race.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post

                            Still very much liking this but would swap Icare Allen for Waterford Whispers now that it looks he'll make the cut for the Martin Pipe. Wouldn't surprise me to see him go off fav for that race.
                            Yeah WW or Answer to Kayf. That was a strong race earlier in the season and WW looks ahead of his mark. JP will get a good conditional on as well.

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                            • #44
                              L'Eau Du Sud if still a good price tomorrow needs to be in this. Couldn't ask for a better result in the Imperial Cup with the trainers backup finishing 2nd and Go Dante (3rd in the Betfair) winning it.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                                L'Eau Du Sud if still a good price tomorrow needs to be in this. Couldn't ask for a better result in the Imperial Cup with the trainers backup finishing 2nd and Go Dante (3rd in the Betfair) winning it.
                                Rock solid form and if either of those 2 rock up next week then they're good value also, just won't be sure of their participation until wednesday I suppose.

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