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Day 1 Yankee 2024 - Captain TigerRolllllll

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  • #46
    Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
    This is the Yankee we can spend some time on tomorrow once we know the final fields in the handicaps but my picks as of today.

    Supreme - I think we should be taking this on. Should be plenty of value.

    Looking at how they're going to line up. Tullyhill and Tellherthename should be at the front. Tullyhill won't be getting a breather and will be under pressure with his jumping. We will need strong stayer but also one that travels well to not let the front 2 get too far ahead. Slade Steel is probably the percentage play at the odds for an each way Yankee - strong stayer, great form over 2m, Rachel is great round Cheltenham. I haven't backed him and he may still not come here though.

    Arkle - not sure about this one. Could make cases for a lot of them. Not going to decide on this until we know who declares as a few will go to the Turners. Gaelic though is going to be tough to beat.

    Ultima - most of the time the winner is well found in the market. We've probably all backed the Naiad so I'd leave him out. We will know if Apple Away gets in tomorrow. A grade 1 winning novice hurdler running off a lower rating than their hurdle rating (and doesn't jump poorly) from a trainer who knows how to win this has to be tempting. Without her, I'd probably suggest Chianti Classico as a British trained novice chaser who ran at the festival last year.

    Fred Winter - no particularly strong feeling at the moment in this. Ose Partir has been popular on here and been coming down in odds and probably not much value now for a maiden. One I like to look at who's going to front run and where they're all likely to be placed before looking at an each way angle. Eagle Fang for the Naas race needs to be respected though and previously raced in a graded race so would be a trends pick.

    NHC - Ziggy as he's an each way price, highest rated, good Festival form, will stay and Elliott can lay one out for this off a long time out.

    Some great points & agree Slade looks one at mo with current prices

    Not sure on Ziggy…,bleed last time a concern

    Andy Hilding v sweet on Kilbeg King ….looks maybe we value
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Odin View Post

      Is there any precedent to pick 5 and do trebles upwards?

      State Man and Lossiemouth just win don't they? So if you have the other 3 with those two, can someone do the maths and figure out whether that's a better return or just ignore this if it's not an option. It just feels like the game is changing with these races and particularly for day 2 it could be useful if Ballyburn and El Fabiolo are used as anchors?
      Nice idea …..see what Kev says
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

        Yeah that's been mentioned in this thread and looks a good option....

        Although it is funny, as we're almost purposefully avoiding winners. We KNOW Willie will have more than 1 winner don't we, are we making it harder than it needs to be?



        At current prices I think Slade Steel at 7/1 is a better bet than Firefox in this even though I prefer the latter.

        Found A Fifty the case is solid. Jumps right but best 2m chase form of the lot.

        The Goffer enough said.

        I don't personally like Salvador Ziggy and consider the top 2 clear of him, so he's in a battle for 1 spot, with all the others. I'd suggest one of Willie's just so we definitely had a winner, State Man isn't going to lose is he
        FAF be nice ….got him at 50s in the One race comp & am loaded up at that price
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        • #49
          Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

          Nice idea …..see what Kev says
          I think we need to keep it as a yankee.

          Ultiamtely anyone can actually do whatever they like, so if you put it up as a yankee, there is nothing stopping me actually doing the Odin suggestion, but we need to keep it as simple as possible ideally

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          • #50
            What’s everyone’s thoughts now we have final decs?

            We need to finalise a plan by this eve

            Be great to hear as many diff views as possible
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            • #51
              erwinj25 (Overall Yankee) Just stuck his yankee up this morning,I will go with the flo as will be in the sun tom and just finished packing. Too early for a beer though.

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              • #52
                Slade Steel, Gaelic Warrior, The Goffer, Embassy Gardens for me.

                All top RPRs in their respective races

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                • #53
                  Love Envoi is a lovely EW price now no?
                  course form is top.
                  There has to be ?? over Lossiemouth at the distance - sure no winner previously without winning at least over 2m2f
                  Running well over shorter this season when probably needs more
                  Close to Honeysuckle LY who if was in this race would be no where near double figures

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                  • #54
                    A speculative one:
                    Mistergif
                    JPR One
                    Chianti Classico
                    Batman Girac

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                    • #55
                      Asian Master
                      Found A Fifty
                      Stumptown
                      Ndaawi

                      My best guess

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Irish Rugby View Post
                        Slade Steel, Gaelic Warrior, The Goffer, Embassy Gardens for me.

                        All top RPRs in their respective races
                        Have you got over it yet?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                          Have you got over it yet?
                          Got over what? The joke is lost on me.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Irish Rugby View Post

                            Got over what? The joke is lost on me.
                            Sorry……Rugby yesterday
                            How on earth did that happen?

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                            • #59
                              Thanks everyone for input so far.....and thought worth sharing latest thoughts.....

                              Races - hardest Boodles, so prob best avoided

                              I'm prob where Kev was in his post, that the value is to take on Willie on day 1......though that obviously is a higher risk play. Willie has had a few slow starts in recent years and then powered on with winners galore last coupe days.....tho he does seem likely to get the obvious 2 in

                              There a re 2 poss approaches .....ew one with all longer prices, or a win one, which then requires an anchor (Lossie or State Man most obvious)

                              Shortlist (i think).....

                              Supreme - Slade (best ew one), Mystical, Firefox
                              Arkle - Hunters, Quilixios, Fifty (if doing GE yankee)
                              Ultima - Goffer, Trelawne (my other fancies are non-runners...Giovinco & Amarite)
                              CH - Irish (could fit into GE/JK EW yankee), or use State as an anchor
                              Mares - Telme, Lantry (JK rides, but maybe force-fitting here as its prob HDB 3rd string?)
                              NHC - Apples, Kilbeg or Ziggy (again prob force-fitting to a GE one as not an ew play given he has bleed last time). Andy Holding put up a big case on Kilbeg and kind of convinced me looks a value bet

                              Really interested in all final thoughts? And then will post final version 9pl-ish tonight (might vary a bit if i get a fish around that time )
                              Last edited by TigerRolllllll; 10 March 2024, 06:27 PM.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                                Sorry……Rugby yesterday
                                How on earth did that happen?
                                Apologies. And I was watching the Wales France game while reading yours.

                                To be honest England deserved that one. It's been a great Six Nations though. Heard to fault any game.

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