Day 1 Yankee 2024 - Captain TigerRolllllll

[Eggs]

This was reason for my Qs above

Boodles poss if did ew as be 7 places prob available

Depends what type of bet we want?

….i always think win or e/w option is down to the individual poster, no need to get hung up on the ‘type’ of bet. Personally, I tend to do an e/w roll-up regardless. Just read the thoughts of others and go with your gut feeling. May the force be with you.

[Kautostar]

Starting to think the day one obvious bankers are Ballyburn & Lossie ….so could go that root with couple longer-priced ones ?

Been several good suggestions…..and very open races

Other route is do all 4 ew …,but maybe best to then avoid Mares & Supreme

Personally I’d rather go for a bigger priced ew option than putting short priced horses in. Unless you’re putting bigger stakes on it’s not worth including the shorties, imo of course each to their own.

[RufusFlynn]

A gaultstats trends ticker day one yankee:

- Mares - Ashroe Diamond - 7 yrs old, won over 2m4f, placed in graded race, rated 140+
- NHC - Salvador Ziggy - aged 7+, chasing before 31st oct, placed in chases 3m+, at least 4 runs over fences
- Ultima - Chianti Classico - aged under 8, ran at LY Festival, best run over 3m, within the 139-151 rating band
- Arkle - Marine Nationale - supreme winner, fav LTO, potential to go off fav?, high rated hurdler, won a race with jockey

[Leman14]

A gaultstats trends ticker day one yankee:

- Mares - Ashroe Diamond - 7 yrs old, won over 2m4f, placed in graded race, rated 140+
- NHC - Salvador Ziggy - aged 7+, chasing before 31st oct, placed in chases 3m+, at least 4 runs over fences
- Ultima - Chianti Classico - aged under 8, ran at LY Festival, best run over 3m, within the 139-151 rating band
- Arkle - Marine Nationale - supreme winner, fav LTO, potential to go off fav?, high rated hurdler, won a race with jockey

I like the look of this, with the obvious need to change out Marine Nationale for something.
At least you have the luxury of knowing the Decs before putting it up

If Ballyburn skips the Supreme, the most obvious races are:
Supreme, Arkle, Ultima and NHC

if Ballyburn goes for the Supreme (and assuming you avoid the Boodles), you could do Arkle, Ultima, NHC and decide which of Ballyburn, State Man or Lossie that you want to take on.

Simple

[TigerRolllllll]

One idea I mentioned at the start of the thread was having the Yankee related…..in the belief that stables can get on a roll & that’s where the multiple aspect kicks in

Tues now looks more open & couple options spring to mind as ew Yankees

Henry/Rachael….

Slade Steel
Quilixios
Amirite
Tellmesomethinggirl

Gordon (Jack)

Firefox
Found a Fifty
Goffer
Irish Point / Ziggy

and win option for Willie/Paul (prob quite short but u could just do a 4-fold if not the Yankee)

Tully
GW (or Hunters)
State
Lossie

Keen to avoid the Boodles probably

interested in thoughts as this is very much a team game

[Carnage at Taunton]

One idea I mentioned at the start of the thread was having the Yankee related…..in the belief that stables can get on a roll & that’s where the multiple aspect kicks in

Tues now looks more open & couple options spring to mind as ew Yankees

Henry/Rachael….

Slade Steel
Quilixios
Amirite
Tellmesomethinggirl

Gordon (Jack)

Firefox
Found a Fifty
Goffer
Irish Point / Ziggy

and win option for Willie/Paul (prob quite short but u could just do a 4-fold if not the Yankee)

Tully
GW (or Hunters)
State
Lossie

Keen to avoid the Boodles probably

interested in thoughts as this is very much a team game

Like the Henry one each way
Would be no surprise if he were to have a good festival
Think that’s more likely to earn most profit.
Like the idea as well, something different.

[Kevloaf]

I think I am a little bit in love with the Jack one

Have fancied Firefox for a long time, we know we get a run for our money with The Goffer and Found a Fifty actually has the best 2m chase form doesn't he?

Jack is superb as well... I do think we have to realistically think, will a jockey do a 4 timer on the day? Paul obviously has the best chance with 2 odds on shots...

[TigerRolllllll]

I think I am a little bit in love with the Jack one

Have fancied Firefox for a long time, we know we get a run for our money with The Goffer and Found a Fifty actually has the best 2m chase form doesn't he?

Jack is superb as well... I do think we have to realistically think, will a jockey do a 4 timer on the day? Paul obviously has the best chance with 2 odds on shots...

There always seems to be someone on a roll on day one ….and agree Jack best jockey around at mo & worth few lengths

im not sure about NHC one tho….blood vessels last time worries me

[TigerRolllllll]

Like the Henry one each way
Would be no surprise if he were to have a good festival
Think that’s more likely to earn most profit.
Like the idea as well, something different.

I’m def going to do this I think whether we may it the forum one or not…..as I fancy all the horses and agree re value …plus always like to cheer Rachael & Henry

[Istabraq]

I think I am a little bit in love with the Jack one

Have fancied Firefox for a long time, we know we get a run for our money with The Goffer and Found a Fifty actually has the best 2m chase form doesn't he?

Jack is superb as well... I do think we have to realistically think, will a jockey do a 4 timer on the day? Paul obviously has the best chance with 2 odds on shots...

I've got a sneak Elliott will have a very good week, not impossible he racks up 5/6 winners so Jack could be the way to go.
Though I do think Wednesday will be the yards best day....

[Carnage at Taunton]

I’m def going to do this I think whether we may it the forum one or not…..as I fancy all the horses and agree re value …plus always like to cheer Rachael & Henry

Yeah I’ve done the Henry one this morning
Will look at the Elliott one as well I think

[Odin]

We could do a take on Willie one on day one as we are likely to get reasonable prices on all the Elliott/De Bromhead horses..

Supreme - Slade Steel my preference, but Firefox is liked by a number on here so two solid options
Arkle - Found A Fifty would be my preference over Quilixios - FAF has won or come second in three consecutive Grade 1s, two of which have been left handed. It's easily the best/most consistent 2m chase form in the race. I think he'll get beat by Gaelic but if taking Willie on then it makes sense to fully take him on.
Ultima - The Goffer gives a solid Naiad ring to the bet
NH Chase - Ziggy likely to be the ew value

You could also consider Ose Partir or Nara who a few are sweet on in the Boodles, both of those would give a big place boost and could maybe go in place of the Supreme or Arkle which are both extremely competitive for the prices we'd get?

[Kevloaf]

We could do a take on Willie one on day one as we are likely to get reasonable prices on all the Elliott/De Bromhead horses..

Supreme - Slade Steel my preference, but Firefox is liked by a number on here so two solid options
Arkle - Found A Fifty would be my preference over Quilixios - FAF has won or come second in three consecutive Grade 1s, two of which have been left handed. It's easily the best/most consistent 2m chase form in the race. I think he'll get beat by Gaelic but if taking Willie on then it makes sense to fully take him on.
Ultima - The Goffer gives a solid Naiad ring to the bet
NH Chase - Ziggy likely to be the ew value

You could also consider Ose Partir or Nara who a few are sweet on in the Boodles, both of those would give a big place boost and could maybe go in place of the Supreme or Arkle which are both extremely competitive for the prices we'd get?

Yeah that's been mentioned in this thread and looks a good option....

Although it is funny, as we're almost purposefully avoiding winners. We KNOW Willie will have more than 1 winner don't we, are we making it harder than it needs to be?



At current prices I think Slade Steel at 7/1 is a better bet than Firefox in this even though I prefer the latter.

Found A Fifty the case is solid. Jumps right but best 2m chase form of the lot.

The Goffer enough said.

I don't personally like Salvador Ziggy and consider the top 2 clear of him, so he's in a battle for 1 spot, with all the others. I'd suggest one of Willie's just so we definitely had a winner, State Man isn't going to lose is he

[Odin]

Yeah that's been mentioned in this thread and looks a good option....

Although it is funny, as we're almost purposefully avoiding winners. We KNOW Willie will have more than 1 winner don't we, are we making it harder than it needs to be?



At current prices I think Slade Steel at 7/1 is a better bet than Firefox in this even though I prefer the latter.

Found A Fifty the case is solid. Jumps right but best 2m chase form of the lot.

The Goffer enough said.

I don't personally like Salvador Ziggy and consider the top 2 clear of him, so he's in a battle for 1 spot, with all the others. I'd suggest one of Willie's just so we definitely had a winner, State Man isn't going to lose is he

Is there any precedent to pick 5 and do trebles upwards?

State Man and Lossiemouth just win don't they? So if you have the other 3 with those two, can someone do the maths and figure out whether that's a better return or just ignore this if it's not an option. It just feels like the game is changing with these races and particularly for day 2 it could be useful if Ballyburn and El Fabiolo are used as anchors?

[DenmanSacre]

This is the Yankee we can spend some time on tomorrow once we know the final fields in the handicaps but my picks as of today.

Supreme - I think we should be taking this on. Should be plenty of value.

Looking at how they're going to line up. Tullyhill and Tellherthename should be at the front. Tullyhill won't be getting a breather and will be under pressure with his jumping. We will need strong stayer but also one that travels well to not let the front 2 get too far ahead. Slade Steel is probably the percentage play at the odds for an each way Yankee - strong stayer, great form over 2m, Rachel is great round Cheltenham. I haven't backed him and he may still not come here though.

Arkle - not sure about this one. Could make cases for a lot of them. Not going to decide on this until we know who declares as a few will go to the Turners. Gaelic though is going to be tough to beat.

Ultima - most of the time the winner is well found in the market. We've probably all backed the Naiad so I'd leave him out. We will know if Apple Away gets in tomorrow. A grade 1 winning novice hurdler running off a lower rating than their hurdle rating (and doesn't jump poorly) from a trainer who knows how to win this has to be tempting. Without her, I'd probably suggest Chianti Classico as a British trained novice chaser who ran at the festival last year.

Fred Winter - no particularly strong feeling at the moment in this. Ose Partir has been popular on here and been coming down in odds and probably not much value now for a maiden. One I like to look at who's going to front run and where they're all likely to be placed before looking at an each way angle. Eagle Fang for the Naas race needs to be respected though and previously raced in a graded race so would be a trends pick.

NHC - Ziggy as he's an each way price, highest rated, good Festival form, will stay and Elliott can lay one out for this off a long time out.