2025, The Odds on Offer

[UpInTrip]

I’ve just noticed William hill have pushed Teahupoo back to 3/1 for the stayers…

[Atlantic Viking]

The 10's has gone for Willie on Denise.

[ComplyOrDie]

The 10's has gone for Willie on Denise.

Probably something to do with the LTR video that went up yesterday.

They had a guest on who was a French racing fanatic and he said WDH was the stand out.

[BookieBasher]

The 10's has gone for Willie on Denise.

Willie’s been Circumcised

[charlie]

El Fabiolo @ 12/1 for the Ryanair stands out as a good bet IMO.

[Kautostar]

El Fabiolo @ 12/1 for the Ryanair stands out as a good bet IMO.

Thought he stood out as a good bet in the champion chase myself. Odds on in the race last year, sandown came too soon after jarring himself up on a track that wouldn’t suit and the bookies have overreacted. Can see GW and Jonbon clashing in the tingle creek while el fab picks up the easy money in Ireland regaining his confidence before drf and Cheltenham.

Why do you think he’ll step up in trip? I think he’s the fastest of the three at the head of the market, he does however have an error in him but with a clear round he wins imo.

[opatcho]

Same here, think his price is too big

I don’t mind the mistake at Cheltenham, and then Sandown is a very tough track. He’s done more than the others that are ahead of him on the market

His arkle the win was more impressive and had better quality than Gaelic’s

but… interesting to hear other views

[Zachx02]

I still see him going QMCC for redemption, don't see why you send him over 4 furlongs further with more fences given his jumping

[Lobos]

I still see him going QMCC for redemption, don't see why you send him over 4 furlongs further with more fences given his jumping

It'll just go down to what Willie has for the CC and Ryanair and who PT thinks will give him the best chance of winning in both races. There's 6/7 of Mullins in the mix for both of those races and every one of them would have a big chance in either. Nothing will be sorted until after the DRF again I suspect which isn't helpful for nailing down a particular race but at least the prices will hold up for punters if they have a particular fancy in each race with the obvious risk of potential fir a NR.

[Runragged]

I still see him going QMCC for redemption, don't see why you send him over 4 furlongs further with more fences given his jumping

Because a longer trip will ease the pressure on his jumping, doing so at a slower speed, quite possibly taking on a lot of slower horses who get further than 2 1/2m in the Ryanair. They have an able replacement in Gaelic Warrior who looked comfortable with 2m in the Arkle and matched the RPR of El Fabiolo in the race last year. There is also the potential return of Energumene.

Like I have said previously, I still think all three will be aimed at the Champion Chase to begin with though would be surprised if all three showed up in the race.

[Kautostar]

I don’t expect energumene to be the force of old after a season out injured and turning 11yrs old by Cheltenham.
Gaelic warrior looks to need soft ground to be at his best, I’d be concerned about him on anything with good in it especially over 2miles.
El fabiolo just needs a confidence boosting win to his name to get back on track I don’t see the need to be stepping him up in trip unless his jumping gets worse. In which case he won’t be winning the Ryanair either.

[Madmoose]

It will be interesting if El Fabiolo can come back and kick on again as although on ratings he is Spanish Moons best prodigy the horses of his don’t progress as shown with Laurina and Grand Roi in recent times.

[Runragged]

I don’t expect energumene to be the force of old after a season out injured and turning 11yrs old by Cheltenham.
Gaelic warrior looks to need soft ground to be at his best, I’d be concerned about him on anything with good in it especially over 2miles.
El fabiolo just needs a confidence boosting win to his name to get back on track I don’t see the need to be stepping him up in trip unless his jumping gets worse. In which case he won’t be winning the Ryanair either.

I'd want to see it proven again on the track but Energumene is a lightly raced 11yo and if anyone can get them back then Mullins is the man. Don't think there is enough to say Gaelic Warrior needs soft, the issue for me is that he is a 'one performance' horse at the moment with his Arkle win 13lb above anything else he has done based on RPR. Again, he now has to go and do it outside of novice company and produce some consistency.
As to El Fabiolo, his jumping should of improved from novice to open company, but not convinced it did and not sure you can 'train' it out of him now. He can get away with mistakes against weaker opposition but in top races against top horses at Championship speed, can he avoid making the kind of mistakes you can't afford to make?

[charlie]

Thought he stood out as a good bet in the champion chase myself. Odds on in the race last year, sandown came too soon after jarring himself up on a track that wouldn’t suit and the bookies have overreacted. Can see GW and Jonbon clashing in the tingle creek while el fab picks up the easy money in Ireland regaining his confidence before drf and Cheltenham.

Why do you think he’ll step up in trip? I think he’s the fastest of the three at the head of the market, he does however have an error in him but with a clear round he wins imo.

I agree. He pretty much lives at odds on nowadays and had an off day. If he lined up as Willies number 1 which is likely he'd be 6/4 so 6/1 has some roll up potential.

I think he'd be fine with the Ryanair trip. He'll be a year older, his jumping is good without being electric and he hits the line hard at Cheltenham. He'd handle an extra 5f no problem IMO and with no Allaho, EF has the talent to farm the Ryanair for 2-3 years IMO, providing he stays sound. Willie did say last year 'I'd have no problem going two and a half as he's nice and relaxed'.

[Lbur4288]

Corbett's Cross in the Ryanair at 25/1 is a decent price for me. Cheltenham form and a versatile horse trip wise.