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2025, The Odds on Offer

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  • I know I'll est Francais was very impressive but one thing that always concerns me with French horses coming over here is the weight they have to carry.

    Prior to Kempton the biggest weight IEF had carried was 10'10, and while he carried 11'7 on Boxing Day he a) will need to carry more and b) did that form not take a knock with Corbetts beating Killbeg King by 3 times the distance quite easily.

    Not saying he isn't a potential weapon but for a general 8/1 shot (appreciate there is a smattering of 10s) that is worth noting for me.

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    • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
      Looks like a few ricks in the GC market to me.

      How is Gerri Colombe 25/1? A few lengths second to the greatest we’ve seen for more than a decade. He ran to an RPR of 178 which would’ve been good enough to win the Gold Cup in 5 of the last 10 years. If anything were to happen to GDC, I’d have him as a marginal fav.

      Fastorslow at 33/1 is just as perplexing. The only horse to win a race over fences is which GDC has also run realistically (sorry Bob) and he’s done it twice. Bumped JJ off far too early to know how he’d have fared but he didn’t get his ground this year either.

      …..25-1 GC does seem decent for Gerri. I still think 33-1 Stellar Story (BANC) is generous for an Elliott trained AB winner when he’s a general 12-1 elsewhere, I know it’s 12 months out but that’s an early e/w double for me, especially with cash-out options.

      i’ll be interested in Better Days Ahead and Stellar Story when a firm put up NHC market.

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      • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


        …..25-1 GC does seem decent for Gerri. I still think 33-1 Stellar Story (BANC) is generous for an Elliott trained AB winner when he’s a general 12-1 elsewhere, I know it’s 12 months out but that’s an early e/w double for me, especially with cash-out options.

        i’ll be interested in Better Days Ahead and Stellar Story when a firm put up NHC market.
        SS 10s and BDA 16s for the NH

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        • Originally posted by The hill View Post

          SS 10s and BDA 16s for the NH
          …cheers, I hadn’t noticed that market was priced. Can only see 365 but I’ll have a look.

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          • Originally posted by Eggs View Post

            …cheers, I hadn’t noticed that market was priced. Can only see 365 but I’ll have a look.
            It's on the Thursday list on oddschecker

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            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
              Looks like a few ricks in the GC market to me.

              How is Gerri Colombe 25/1? A few lengths second to the greatest we’ve seen for more than a decade. He ran to an RPR of 178 which would’ve been good enough to win the Gold Cup in 5 of the last 10 years. If anything were to happen to GDC, I’d have him as a marginal fav.

              Fastorslow at 33/1 is just as perplexing. The only horse to win a race over fences is which GDC has also run realistically (sorry Bob) and he’s done it twice. Bumped JJ off far too early to know how he’d have fared but he didn’t get his ground this year either.
              Good shout Re Gerri, he should be around 10/12s imo. That's a great price.

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              • ….BDA NHC also 16-1 in Lads specials.

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                • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                  ….33-1 Stellar Story (BANC) with PP seems very big for an AB winner, only 12s with Hills/365 and 16s with Coral.

                  Surprised if that lasts very long.

                  ….PP cut Stellar Story to 16-1, very surprised it lasted for that long.

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                  • I've spent a while this morning putting together a load of combination multiples using El Fabiolo, Teahupoo and GDC as the backbone.

                    Those 3 as a treble are 80/1 with Hills (in from 90s) which seemed a nice starting point for next year's festival, and I've included them as various combinations with these below.

                    2/1 Constitution Hill
                    4/1 Fact To File
                    5/1 Lossimouth
                    10/1 Slade Steel
                    14/1 Romeo Coolio (Gallaghers)
                    16/1 Caldwell Potter
                    33/1 Montys Star
                    10/1 Gaelic Warrior (Ryanair)
                    20/1 Impaire Et Passe (Arkle & Turners)
                    25/1 Firefox (Turners)


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                    • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                      I've spent a while this morning putting together a load of combination multiples using El Fabiolo, Teahupoo and GDC as the backbone.

                      Those 3 as a treble are 80/1 with Hills (in from 90s) which seemed a nice starting point for next year's festival, and I've included them as various combinations with these below.

                      2/1 Constitution Hill
                      4/1 Fact To File
                      5/1 Lossimouth
                      10/1 Slade Steel
                      14/1 Romeo Coolio (Gallaghers)
                      16/1 Caldwell Potter
                      33/1 Montys Star
                      10/1 Gaelic Warrior (Ryanair)
                      20/1 Impaire Et Passe (Arkle & Turners)
                      25/1 Firefox (Turners)

                      The Multi-Man never rests

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                      • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                        The Multi-Man never rests
                        I'm trying to be more selective next year and I mostly only want horses where I think their targets are fairly obvious. Too many bets last year included Gaelic Warrior, hyped novice hurdlers, and Corbetts Cross

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                        • Inthepocket not bad value at 50s for CC

                          Guess could go Ryanair, but was being aimed at Arkle
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                          • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                            Inthepocket not bad value at 50s for CC

                            Guess could go Ryanair, but was being aimed at Arkle
                            Still a novice so unless he wins this season, more likely to go the Arkle or Turners you'd think

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                            • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                              Inthepocket not bad value at 50s for CC

                              Guess could go Ryanair, but was being aimed at Arkle
                              still a novice at minute though

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                              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                                I'm trying to be more selective next year and I mostly only want horses where I think their targets are fairly obvious. Too many bets last year included Gaelic Warrior, hyped novice hurdlers, and Corbetts Cross
                                Mine was an absolute car crash and possibly the worst year of my stupid ass strategy. The prices won’t be helped as Cheltenham talk has amplified on Twitter this year so it’s going to get harder. It’s almost all year round now and the fact so many horses already have prices is not going to help either.

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