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2024 Handicaps

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  • Looking at the Purcell entries it looks like connections want to go the graded route with Mistergif. Good luck to those on the big prices

    And Elliot has entered Staffordshire Knot who will only be having his third run, and the more interesting Cleatus Poolaw and Western Fold, for handicap purposes
    Possibly the most interesting Mullins entry for potential handicaps is Spread Boss Ted.

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
      https://www.irishracing.com/racecard...4/Thurles/1523

      Looking at the Purcell entries it looks like connections want to go the graded route with Mistergif. Good luck to those on the big prices

      And Elliot has entered Staffordshire Knot who will only be having his third run, and the more interesting Cleatus Poolaw and Western Fold, for handicap purposes
      Possibly the most interesting Mullins entry for potential handicaps is Spread Boss Ted.
      I was really hoping they would try to get another run into Mistergif for a handicap

      My bet on him is Nrnb so no damage

      would anyone cash out on him now if they were not on Nrnb ?

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      • Originally posted by Liammet View Post

        I was really hoping they would try to get another run into Mistergif for a handicap

        My bet on him is Nrnb so no damage

        would anyone cash out on him now if they were not on Nrnb ?
        I'm not sure there is another race for him, but can't be certain.
        I was NRNB also so no harm done.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          I'm not sure there is another race for him, but can't be certain.
          I was NRNB also so no harm done.
          Does anyone attempt that Imperial cup bonus anymore ?

          Wouldn’t be a Mullins thing but David Casey has been plotting handicaps more often lately purely due to the amount of horses they have

          The Double Green have had a go at it before

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          • I don't think Munir and Souede are really in the game for handicappers are they? Not without finding out they're not up to Graded class first anyway.

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            • Mistergif will be graded or nothing now, most likely outsider in Supreme

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              • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                Mistergif will be graded or nothing now, most likely outsider in Supreme
                Think he'll go well, can see him placing.

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                • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                  Mistergif will be graded or nothing now, most likely outsider in Supreme
                  Agreed. Particularly if RTW ends up in the Ballymore, which connections seem to favour at this stage. He’s this years Diverge I reckon. If Ballyburn were to head to the Baring Bingham, I’d actually really like his chances here.

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                  • I’ve not seen a novice as quick over his hurdles all season as mistergif was the other day. Interesting runner as others have said.

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                    • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                      I don't think Munir and Souede are really in the game for handicappers are they? Not without finding out they're not up to Graded class first anyway.
                      I am sure they’re not Benjy

                      However,with the amount of horses they are buying they will inevitably end up with some

                      Accept that Mistergif has yet to prove he is not graded class yet

                      Mullins team will advise accordingly

                      Galopin des Champs and State Man both won handicaps at the festival

                      They exploited their low handicap mark,same as they tried with Gaelic Warrior

                      I just thought the opportunity was there to do the same with Mistergif

                      He could still develop into a Graded horse down the line

                      I am sure they thought Batman Girac was a triumph horse

                      Going to have to win the Boodles with him now
                      Last edited by Liammet; 16 February 2024, 10:11 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by Liammet View Post
                        Does anyone attempt that Imperial cup bonus anymore ?

                        Wouldn’t be a Mullins thing but David Casey has been plotting handicaps more often lately purely due to the amount of horses they have

                        The Double Green have had a go at it before
                        On my phone at minute so can’t look back but i don’t recall Willie trying it

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                        • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                          I don't think Munir and Souede are really in the game for handicappers are they? Not without finding out they're not up to Graded class first anyway.
                          They had Hunters Yarn in the County Hurdle even though he won a listed race over 2m prior to the festival, and they brought Ocastle Des Mottes back in October (after 7 runs), one who could be primed for a handicap at the festival.

                          The fact they brought a horse who looked nothing out of the ordinary in France surely indicates they have some designs on a handicap first, I think Bromley said as much too. Admittedly he could be one that progresses to being a decent staying chaser in time, but as a hurdler he hasn't set the world alight.....yet!

                          I made the case in my diary, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ocastle Des Mottes ends up in trip in the Pipe. He's going into the race at least 9lbs lower than Galopin run in it, as he only got a rating of 133 for the Betfair Hurdle, and won't get a rise for that.
                          Last edited by ComplyOrDie; 16 February 2024, 08:58 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                            On my phone at minute so can’t look back but i don’t recall Willie trying it
                            Just checked,he hasn’t tried it

                            Might see a few more try it with the necessary requirement for a fourth run

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                            • Originally posted by Liammet View Post

                              Just checked,he hasn’t tried it

                              Might see a few more try it with the necessary requirement for a fourth run
                              Will they not need to have a 4th run before the imperial tho seen as that's a class1 hcap?

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                              • Weights for the Festival handicaps are framed as at the 25th of this month. My understanding is that the fourth run has to be by then to get a mark but the race conditions aren't exactly crystal clear and I may be mistaken.
                                As it happens, the cut off for the Imperial Cup is later but the race conditions state,
                                "A novice or juvenile horse shall only be
                                qualified to run in this race if it has run a minimum of
                                four times in Hurdle races in Great Britain, Ireland
                                or France in accordance with paragraph 15 of the Weights and
                                Handicapping Code​"
                                This states that the horse must have run 4 times to qualify for a rating.

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