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2024 Mares Chase

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  • Wouldn't discount halka though, brilliant chasing debut and she'll only improve from that. Looked a real natural, I think I'd have her as my 2nd choice if I was starting from fresh right now

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    • I'm thinking Limerick Lace may well run in a Handicap at the Fez

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Just looked up all latest RPR's.....

        ADV ran in the 120's last time......she's gone.

        Dinoblue miles clear if she stays

        Limerick Lace a few ahead of Hauturiere who in turn is ahead of Halka.

        Close for the places.

        Best I have is 20's (3 times) Jack. As a result I left alone the 40's which was an insane price.

        I do think PT will ride Hauturiere so she may well go off second fav.
        Ah fair enough sir, thought you'd taken 40s!

        I'd imagine Halka has any amount of improvement in her, anyone know why we haven't seen her since?

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
          Jonbon v El Fabiolo in Clarence House could still have a say re Dinoblue. If one or the other gets really beaten up or doesn't come out of what could be a war very well, then Dinoblue could pick up the pieces for Willie or JP in the Champion Chase.

          What prep race do we think Dinoblue will have for the Mares Chase or will she go straight there now ?
          How many lengths will El Fab have to bate Jonbon for him to step up or will Nicky stick to 2m despite a trashing?

          does JP have other any other darts for the Ryanair?
          Jonbon be a nice one if he’s no match

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          • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post

            Ah fair enough sir, thought you'd taken 40s!

            I'd imagine Halka has any amount of improvement in her, anyone know why we haven't seen her since?
            Not sure. She'd need at least another run maybe two before the Fez if she were going MC. Perhaps they'll just revert to hurdles again for the Mares Hurdle??

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            • Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post

              How many lengths will El Fab have to bate Jonbon for him to step up or will Nicky stick to 2m despite a trashing?

              does JP have other any other darts for the Ryanair?
              Jonbon be a nice one if he’s no match
              Yeah that's my thinking. It'll probably take a big beating but entirely possible.

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              • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                Wouldn't discount halka though, brilliant chasing debut and she'll only improve from that. Looked a real natural, I think I'd have her as my 2nd choice if I was starting from fresh right now
                I've got her on board but she needs more chase runs as it'll be very difficult against the more experienced Mares.

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                • Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post

                  How many lengths will El Fab have to bate Jonbon for him to step up or will Nicky stick to 2m despite a trashing?

                  does JP have other any other darts for the Ryanair?
                  Jonbon be a nice one if he’s no match
                  I don’t think Jonbon has a chance of beating El Fabiolo at Cheltenham
                  However I do think he could get close to turning him over at Ascot
                  The track will suit Jonbon better and Willie might leave a bit to work on with El Fabiolo
                  Certainly didn’t have Energumene spot on for it last year

                  How did this get into the Mares Chase thread ?
                  Last edited by Liammet; 4 January 2024, 10:33 PM.

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                  • Totally my fault Liammet. I'm hoping that Jonbon gets crushed so that Dinoblue can be JP's horse in the CC............. wishful thinking I know and a bit naughty.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      ADV ran in the 120's last time......she's gone.
                      And a 154 the time before that, what's you point?

                      She ran Impervious to the closest she had been run too against other mares all season.

                      Impervious was touted not just for the Mares Chase again this season but also potentially the Ryanair.

                      IF Allegorie De Vassy can replicate last seasons performance it will take a good one to get close to her.

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        You just know he'll bottle it
                        Like he did with Shishkin?

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                          Totally my fault Liammet. I'm hoping that Jonbon gets crushed so that Dinoblue can be JP's horse in the CC............. wishful thinking I know and a bit naughty.
                          So you don’t want a top 2 Mile race to savour at Ascot and then one to look forward to at the festival!!
                          A bit naughty??
                          More like very selfish I would say.
                          Last edited by Carnage at Taunton; 5 January 2024, 06:59 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                            Like he did with Shishkin?
                            Given shiskin hasn't really been the same since maybe he should

                            Same as Altior wasn't the same after the cyrname clash

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                              Given shiskin hasn't really been the same since maybe he should

                              Same as Altior wasn't the same after the cyrname clash
                              Do you actually believe one or both of these horses were severely affected by these races ?
                              Because if you or anyone else does , then racing is on an even slippery slope, if trainers stop racing their grade one horses against other good grade one horses in fear of ruining them, then what else do we have ?

                              I know it's possible and could have been a factor in their apparent decline, but I think it just bothers me when people mention this sort of thing.

                              "Maybe he should" ?

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                              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                                Given shiskin hasn't really been the same since maybe he should

                                Same as Altior wasn't the same after the cyrname clash
                                Ah ok, so it happens with 2 different horses so it happens again ?? Okey doke.

                                Jonbon needs another run, Ascot seems to fit .
                                Let’s have as many potential top clashes as possible imo.

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