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2024 Ryanair Chase

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  • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

    Appreciate it. Has to be.
    He’ll definitely be ridden forward now. I wish they hadn’t taken in the Savills. Chasing Galopin’s shadow around Leopardstown in bottomless ground wasn’t ideal!

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    • Stage Star leads and Envoi either gets to him or don’t
      Thats my immediate thoughts after the news.

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      • I think Protektorat will go here now. His last 2 runs definitely put him in the mix with the best form of any of these. I think this trip on the new course will be perfect for him

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        • Originally posted by Studfarm254 View Post
          I think Protektorat will go here now. His last 2 runs definitely put him in the mix with the best form of any of these. I think this trip on the new course will be perfect for him
          Hope so, backed him for this after the run at Lingfield
          Makes sense to me.

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          • Don't understand why after the loss of Allaho everyone suddenly come up with horses that have hardly been mentioned on here before as having any chance of placing let alone winning the race ???

            Surely we should be concentrating on the horses left at the head of the market that 1) will definitely be coming to the race and 2) have a real chance of winning the race. We should not be chucking points away on rags should we ??

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            • Was William hills win today and at the festival bet on allaho from last weekend nrmb or antepost does anyone know?

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                Don't understand why after the loss of Allaho everyone suddenly come up with horses that have hardly been mentioned on here before as having any chance of placing let alone winning the race ???

                Surely we should be concentrating on the horses left at the head of the market that 1) will definitely be coming to the race and 2) have a real chance of winning the race. We should not be chucking points away on rags should we ??
                If Protektorat turns up he’s no rag, that’s for sure
                Nrnb well worth a go imo.

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                • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                  If Protektorat turns up he’s no rag, that’s for sure
                  Nrnb well worth a go imo.
                  Yeah, he's not a bad shout but the likes of Classic Getaway, EDG............. Appreciate It again ??????

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                  • Agree Lobos, I'm not sure what people have seen this season in Appreciate It that makes him up to winning this personally? He was awful the last day

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                    • That said, I'd be very keen on L'Homme Presse if he came for this, but they're probably rightly trying for the big one I'd say

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                      • Originally posted by robith View Post
                        That said, I'd be very keen on L'Homme Presse if he came for this, but they're probably rightly trying for the big one I'd say
                        Yep. I think the Ryanair will be a very small field this year. Need to get horses on board who are definitely targeting the race. That's half the battle.

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                        • Lucinda russell has mentioned the ryanair is an option for Ahoy senor too. 20s nrnb

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                          • Few thoughts on potential winners & value

                            Need to run RPR of 170ish minimum to win a Ryanair....can get away with just below in a bad year like Envoi did with 167 last year

                            Looking at key runners best performances (this year for some on way down)....

                            Banbridge 169
                            Stage Star 171
                            Envoi 167 (has repeated it this year)
                            Edwardstone 171 (167 this year, but does he stay?)
                            Protektorat 172 (169 this year)
                            Ahoy 174 (nothing this year)
                            Pic D 169 (prob won't go)

                            Janidl 168 (163 this season)
                            Hitman 164
                            Fugitif 162 (improving still >)
                            Appr 160
                            Ash Tree Meadow 157 (improving)
                            Classic 156 (young, could improve)
                            Fil D 153 (young)
                            Jungle 152 (unexposed)

                            I think the winner prob comes from the top bunch and very likely the top two......but def appears value in Protektorat ew NRNB.....and if looking for a long ones maybe Classic Getaway, Ash Tree Meadow, Fugitif & Janidl are bit over-looked

                            I have backed Appr It at start of season and have the long prices many of us do, but hard to see a case for him now

                            My view is Fil For has too much to find for a 6-year old and is a bit over-tipped
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                            • Fugitif cut to as low as 12/1 following Allaho news. PP sleeping and left him at 33/1. Runs Saturday v Jonbon as prep. Ryanair the target. Loves Cheltenham.

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                              • I've been quite keen on ash tree meadow for the Ryanair for a while now.
                                with allaho out is he more likely to come here? Possibly, Gordon may view it as an easier race to win now.
                                He's been pretty open that he'll try conflated over the x country at the festival, surely he's not pinning his hopes on fil dor for this race.
                                I think he knows he has a contender in ATM.
                                So why do I think he can win? Well he's certainly impressed me in his last 2 chases, to the eye his jumping has improved, he has got to the front and nothing has passed him his last 2 runs.

                                Out of the previous 9 winners of the Galway plate from 2014-2022, 5 didn't compete at Cheltenham the following march, 4 did however.
                                Taking a look at those 4, in 2014 road to riches won the Galway plate off a Mark of 149, he ran in the 2015 gold cup with an 167OR, finishing 3rd.
                                In 2015 shanahans turn won the plate off 142, unplaced in the 2016 Ultima off 153OR
                                in 2017 balko de flos won the plate off 146, he won the 2018 RYANAIR with an 166OR
                                ​​​​​in 2022 hewick won the plate off 155, he fell in the good cup with place prospects with a 170OR

                                So it would appear the plate isn't a bad Cheltenham trial when they run at the festival, the 3 that ran in graded races all performed with great credit having won the plate off much lower ratings. 2 of the 3 were the same age as ATM, while the other balko de flos was a year younger.

                                He's still there @50/1 but 25/1 nrnb at 365 looks a good bit of value considering plate winners record in graded races the following march.
                                I'm on at 66/1, but have now also taken the 25/1 nrnb for a decent stake.

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