2024 Ryanair Chase

[Craigy14]

When put up at 66/1 I don't care

I hope Allaho gets beat - fan boys over a middle distance horse..... doesn't deserve to be called a great

He’s a cliff horse of yours Kev eh? I remember you or somebody mentioning the 66/1 way back but just couldn’t see it myself.

I think if it wasn’t for injury he would have probably been WPM’s main dart at the BANC in 2022.

[Carnage at Taunton]

The Sunday single sounds much better value than that as well.

Fair enough, just thought I would mention it

[Eggs]

I'm not against him having a chance in the Ryanair like, and I get this is a Cheltenham forum and a Ryanair thread but... at 14/1 for the Ryanair or 8/1 Sunday it's a no brainer isn't it?

If he can't win Sunday then I'd be chucking the Ryanair slips on the bin tbh.

….i notice 365 are 7/2 from 8-1 for AI tomorrow.

[Benjy23]

Fat Jockey gamble that

Hadn't realised he'd taken a big cut. The 25s is probably fair in that case.

[Lobos]

….i notice 365 are 7/2 from 8-1 for AI tomorrow.

Dineen tipped him up for tomorrow

[Odin]

Feels telling to me that Paddy are standout odds against price on Allaho tomorrow, be very interesting to see how he performs with that in mind.

[Cheltenham Novice Chase]

Dineen tipped him up for tomorrow

The problem with AI is he’s got a mind of his own

[Kevloaf]

5/1 TWAF for Allaho ... if he does win tomorrow, he's potentially still got Banbridge and Stage Star to beat ...

Anyone fancy it strongly?


Has to be a very fair price if you do.

My Allaho bet is at 6/1 doubled with ADV so I need to weigh up the options with the rangers tomorrow already in my book.

Stick or twist

[Studfarm254]

I think people are reading far too much into Appreciates form when he split fastorslow and galopin. The trip was too short for fastorslow and galopin didn’t turn up. I also think people are being led by Ruby putting him up. Let’s not forget Ruby put him up for the champion hurdle and the Turners. The fact is he hasn’t won in his last 6 chase starts, the only 2 chases he’s ever won were against pianos and American fridge freezers. He won’t be winning tomorrow and he’s absolutely no chance in the Ryanair, he’s simply not good enough. Save your money guys and back something more sensible like envoi Allen. And please no one mention how AI won the supreme (worst ever) by 50 lengths 500 years ago, thanks

[Lobos]

So you like him a bit then Stud ....

[Studfarm254]

So you like him a bit then Stud ....

He might be a nice bloke, I’ve never met him but he’s not very good at racing

[archie]

I'm not inclined to say anything derogatory about 3 admirable horses because I know how people can form an illogical attachment to any individual animal. Tomorrow's race is more information towards a selection in March but looked at in isolation we have 3 ten year-olds at the top of the market, At that age they are very rarely improving so let's check them out individually.

Appreciate It. 8 chases have yielded RPRs of 154/156/156/155/151/155/160/148. Best RPR 160. Highest OR 160. Current OR 158. Set to carry 11-3.

Envoi Allen. 6 chases since the start of last season have yielded RPRs of 167/126/167/158/157/167. Best RPR 167. Highest OR 165. Current OR 164. Set to carry 11-12.

Allaho. 2 chases since long break for RPRs of 170 and 172. Best RPR in that period 172. Highest OR in that period 176. Current OR 173. Set to carry 11-8.

In other words, going by RPRs, Allaho has 7lb in hand of Appreciate It and 9lb in hand of Envoi Allen. Using ORs, it's 10lb and 13lb respectively. That is how much Allaho has to regress from his KG run even if the others run to their best. 26 days should be enough recovery time from the KG as he's twice before run at Christmas and then towards the end of January, including winning this race 3 years ago.

[BuckingThe Trend]

Very good reality check. Thanks archie.

[Kevloaf]

I'm not inclined to say anything derogatory about 3 admirable horses because I know how people can form an illogical attachment to any individual animal. Tomorrow's race is more information towards a selection in March but looked at in isolation we have 3 ten year-olds at the top of the market, At that age they are very rarely improving so let's check them out individually.

Appreciate It. 8 chases have yielded RPRs of 154/156/156/155/151/155/160/148. Best RPR 160. Highest OR 160. Current OR 158. Set to carry 11-3.

Envoi Allen. 6 chases since the start of last season have yielded RPRs of 167/126/167/158/157/167. Best RPR 167. Highest OR 165. Current OR 164. Set to carry 11-12.

Allaho. 2 chases since long break for RPRs of 170 and 172. Best RPR in that period 172. Highest OR in that period 176. Current OR 173. Set to carry 11-8.

In other words, going by RPRs, Allaho has 7lb in hand of Appreciate It and 9lb in hand of Envoi Allen. Using ORs, it's 10lb and 13lb respectively. That is how much Allaho has to regress from his KG run even if the others run to their best. 26 days should be enough recovery time from the KG as he's twice before run at Christmas and then towards the end of January, including winning this race 3 years ago.

Sold. 5/1 TWAF it is

[charlie]

I'm not inclined to say anything derogatory about 3 admirable horses because I know how people can form an illogical attachment to any individual animal. Tomorrow's race is more information towards a selection in March but looked at in isolation we have 3 ten year-olds at the top of the market, At that age they are very rarely improving so let's check them out individually.

Appreciate It. 8 chases have yielded RPRs of 154/156/156/155/151/155/160/148. Best RPR 160. Highest OR 160. Current OR 158. Set to carry 11-3.

Envoi Allen. 6 chases since the start of last season have yielded RPRs of 167/126/167/158/157/167. Best RPR 167. Highest OR 165. Current OR 164. Set to carry 11-12.

Allaho. 2 chases since long break for RPRs of 170 and 172. Best RPR in that period 172. Highest OR in that period 176. Current OR 173. Set to carry 11-8.

In other words, going by RPRs, Allaho has 7lb in hand of Appreciate It and 9lb in hand of Envoi Allen. Using ORs, it's 10lb and 13lb respectively. That is how much Allaho has to regress from his KG run even if the others run to their best. 26 days should be enough recovery time from the KG as he's twice before run at Christmas and then towards the end of January, including winning this race 3 years ago.

Great post. Basically, Allaho smashes AI into next week.