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2024 Ryanair Chase
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Originally posted by charlie View Post
Thats fair. What would he have to do on Sunday to take you from lukewarm to red hot? I mean, if he came out and blitzed them hard held like prime Allaho I suppose that would do it.
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If Envoi Allen or Appreciate It wins on Sunday, ORs and RPRs are right out of the window and they should retire Allaho. Clearly, after the time off and aged 10 he's not as good as he was but even the Kempton run has him well clear of Sunday's main opposition. If he wins well he'll surely be much shorter than 3/1 for Cheltenham.
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Originally posted by archie View PostIf Envoi Allen or Appreciate It wins on Sunday, ORs and RPRs are right out of the window and they should retire Allaho. Clearly, after the time off and aged 10 he's not as good as he was but even the Kempton run has him well clear of Sunday's main opposition. If he wins well he'll surely be much shorter than 3/1 for Cheltenham.
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This is probably going to look stupid in a couple of days but I think Appreciate It is a real dark horse for the Ryanair after looking through saxs race planning diaries.
Sunday is the 3rd decent Ryanair pointing race that he will have run in this season.
1st - John Durkan
The last 4 years it has produced 3 ryanair winners a 2nd and a 3rd.
2nd - Savill's Chase
The last 5 years, non winners of the Savill's have produced 2 winners, a 2nd and a 3rd.
3rd - Sundays Race
2021 and 2022 winner went in to win both Ryanairs.
Yes it isn't lost on me that Allaho fills up a lot of these stats, but that was then and this is now. We don't know if Allaho is quite the same as he used to be.
Appreciate it is the only horse to have taken in all 3 races, and arguably has produced the best 2m4f form of the season of those that are likely to run in the race by splitting the two gold cup favourites in the John Durkan, which is the strongest pointer towards the Ryanair.
Maybe he will fulfil his potential now, 2 n half might be his thing and he goes on to stun the favourites. Or more than likely I'm barking up the wrong tree and finishes well down the pack. But 14s I think is an alright price to have a little stab at and I'm a sucker for looking through the race planning and stat diaries and trying to find one at a bigger price in the market where they hit a few of the trends.
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I'm not against him having a chance in the Ryanair like, and I get this is a Cheltenham forum and a Ryanair thread but... at 14/1 for the Ryanair or 8/1 Sunday it's a no brainer isn't it?
If he can't win Sunday then I'd be chucking the Ryanair slips on the bin tbh.
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Originally posted by Benjy23 View PostI'm not against him having a chance in the Ryanair like, and I get this is a Cheltenham forum and a Ryanair thread but... at 14/1 for the Ryanair or 8/1 Sunday it's a no brainer isn't it?
If he can't win Sunday then I'd be chucking the Ryanair slips on the bin tbh.
Sundays price is way better than his Ryanair price
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Yeh it does seem that way, I took some of the 8s when it was mentioned in here earlier. If he doesn't win that or even go close with that weight difference then it looks like curtains for his chances at the festival and I will keep quiet from now on
Also stuck AI, Allaho and Envoi in trebles with Hauturiere and High Class Hero as both of their races Sunday have previously produced Mares Chase and Bartlett winners.
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Originally posted by Benjy23 View PostI'm not against him having a chance in the Ryanair like, and I get this is a Cheltenham forum and a Ryanair thread but... at 14/1 for the Ryanair or 8/1 Sunday it's a no brainer isn't it?
If he can't win Sunday then I'd be chucking the Ryanair slips on the bin tbh.
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Originally posted by archie View PostIf Envoi Allen or Appreciate It wins on Sunday, ORs and RPRs are right out of the window and they should retire Allaho. Clearly, after the time off and aged 10 he's not as good as he was but even the Kempton run has him well clear of Sunday's main opposition. If he wins well he'll surely be much shorter than 3/1 for Cheltenham.
I actually fancy Appreciate It to win on Sunday getting weight but Allaho to win in March.
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Originally posted by Benjy23 View PostI'm not against him having a chance in the Ryanair like, and I get this is a Cheltenham forum and a Ryanair thread but... at 14/1 for the Ryanair or 8/1 Sunday it's a no brainer isn't it?
If he can't win Sunday then I'd be chucking the Ryanair slips on the bin tbh.
Shame really and I know the injury post supreme has curtailed what could have been slightly.
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