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2024 Triumph Hurdle (Juveniles)

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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

    Value in the 'Without Willie' trainer markets I wonder if Hendo may lose his big gun and they're running poorly?

    and 11/8 to have more than UK seems more appealing than it did.
    Yep first thing I did was top up on Henry. Very good value imo.

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    • Kargese strengthened up on the exchanges in the last 24 hours. Bunting going in the other direction.

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      • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
        …JOB re Nurburgring;

        He is being aimed at the Triumph Hurdle. He has improved with each of his four starts over hurdles and has been getting more professional with each run. He shaped better than the bare result in the Grade 2 at Leopardstown’s Christmas meeting as he ended up getting bottled up in traffic in a steadily-run race and that didn’t play to his strengths. The new course will suit him very well as he’s a galloper that stays well. Sir Gino looks very good, but our fella’s form puts him up there with the best of the Irish and we’re looking forward to having a crack at them.
        This is quite simple bullshat
        should go and romp in the boodles

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        • Originally posted by Ray View Post

          This is quite simple bullshat
          should go and romp in the boodles
          Blake said a while back it was the triumph all day.
          posted on here.

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          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

            Blake said a while back it was the triumph all day.
            posted on here.
            Think Ray is implying he should go for the Boodles.

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            • Nurburgring's form is up there with the best of the irish, no way he goes for the Fred Winter

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              • Originally posted by luisgarciaisgod View Post
                Nurburgring's form is up there with the best of the irish, no way he goes for the Fred Winter
                Playing for places at best though ?

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                • With the runours of a bug going around Nicky's yard, who knows?

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    Think Ray is implying he should go for the Boodles.
                    I know what he's implying but it's no good (especially when betting antepost) when they're pretty set on where they're actually going.

                    Some make a habit of it though

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                    • Originally posted by luisgarciaisgod View Post
                      Nurburgring's form is up there with the best of the irish, no way he goes for the Fred Winter
                      Yep, looks obviously suited to a strong staying triumph hurdle also.

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                      • Who does Paul ride in this?

                        does he take the ride on Kargese? if he does she’ll be a alot shorter but I don’t think they fancy her or does he stick with Storm Heart again? Nothing looks particularly strong, Wont be E.Diamond or Bunting I don’t think.

                        S.Mundi isn’t a mile off on the exchanges right now maybe they will throw him in on debut, At a time maybe it looks like Nicky is worth taking on. Win/win situation regards nov status.

                        thinking of the nrnb on him decent enough prices out there..gone full circle from start of season.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          Playing for places at best though ?
                          Yeah, I would be careful
                          Sir Gino worked beautifully does not sound to me like I want to start looking at alternatives!!
                          365 are trying to tempt me, my cash out increased
                          No thanks.
                          Last edited by Carnage at Taunton; 29 February 2024, 06:25 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                            Yeah, I would be careful
                            Sir Gino worked beautifully does not sound to me like I want to start looking at alternatives!!
                            365 are trying to tempt me, my cash out increased
                            No thanks.
                            I definitely won't be backing him for the Triumph. SG is the one to beat but I suspect it won't be as easy as the betting suggests. Maybe Burdett Road picked up his injury in the race against SG in which case he may have been slightly flattered by the winning distance? The DRF race was clearly far deeper in quality. They finished in a heap but historically it's been by far the best Triumph Trial. Nicky has said on a number of occasions also that SG is not your typical Triumph horse. He has proven himself on the track though and it's hard to pick any holes in him. You sense though that he'll need to step up again to fend off the best of Willie's.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                              I definitely won't be backing him for the Triumph. SG is the one to beat but I suspect it won't be as easy as the betting suggests. Maybe Burdett Road picked up his injury in the race against SG in which case he may have been slightly flattered by the winning distance? The DRF race was clearly far deeper in quality. They finished in a heap but historically it's been by far the best Triumph Trial. Nicky has said on a number of occasions also that SG is not your typical Triumph horse. He has proven himself on the track though and it's hard to pick any holes in him. You sense though that he'll need to step up again to fend off the best of Willie's.
                              Don’t see it that way at all.
                              If one of the Irish in that race is better than SG, that means he finishes about 5th or 6th as they finished so close to each other. That’s looking at it literally of course.
                              Having watched both races and others, I think SG is a fair way ahead of the Irish.
                              Of course horses can improve into the festival so it’s not cut and dried by any means.

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                              • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                                Don’t see it that way at all.
                                If one of the Irish in that race is better than SG, that means he finishes about 5th or 6th as they finished so close to each other. That’s looking at it literally of course.
                                Having watched both races and others, I think SG is a fair way ahead of the Irish.
                                Of course horses can improve into the festival so it’s not cut and dried by any means.
                                There was a strong feeling after DRF that Sir Gino is superior to anything in Ireland, that did come hot on the heels after his Trials Day demolition but it was seriously impressive, unless something has improved plenty in the last month or so it does seem to point to the fav...

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