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2024 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
    Via RTC….WilliamHill:

    "He has entries in the Stayers Hurdle and the National Hunt Chase at Cheltenham, but we’re not leaning towards anything just yet.

    "He’s a dual winner of the Stayers, but – on his run at Christmas – he’ll have to take a good step forward to win the National Hunt Chase."

    Sounds more like stayers to me?
    Funny how he thought the National Hunt was better on the 17th January (i.e, after his Xmas run)

    "He stays very well and you'd like to think he'd have a massive chance in the National Hunt Chase. That looks like the right race for him and hopefully it'll work out for him."
    "I suppose I was a bit disappointed with him over Christmas, if I'm being completely honest, but the ground was very soft and a big galloping track like Leopardstown might not have suited him either. He's not that big. In saying that, I was delighted with the way he jumped.
    "He clearly handles Cheltenham and the demands of the track seem to suit him so hopefully he will put up a big show over there again in March."


    FWIW I think Flooring Porter should go Stayers again

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    • Originally posted by Odin View Post

      Funny how he thought the National Hunt was better on the 17th January (i.e, after his Xmas run)

      "He stays very well and you'd like to think he'd have a massive chance in the National Hunt Chase. That looks like the right race for him and hopefully it'll work out for him."
      "I suppose I was a bit disappointed with him over Christmas, if I'm being completely honest, but the ground was very soft and a big galloping track like Leopardstown might not have suited him either. He's not that big. In saying that, I was delighted with the way he jumped.
      "He clearly handles Cheltenham and the demands of the track seem to suit him so hopefully he will put up a big show over there again in March."


      FWIW I think Flooring Porter should go Stayers again
      Agree it sounds like change of heart - but I agree he should go stayers
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      • If I was Cromwell I think I might chance the NHC. The other professional jockeys seem to have his number over the smaller obstacles.

        The amateur jockeys in the NHC might not counter his tactics as well, Patrick's a devil for giving rival horses a lot of rope in this race. I'm aware Flooring will also have an amateur pilot who won't be as good a judge of pace and breathers as Danny. However, if he stays he might go off and not be caught.

        Imo he won't win either so just some random thoughts on a dreary Friday morning.

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        • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
          Via RTC….WilliamHill:

          "He has entries in the Stayers Hurdle and the National Hunt Chase at Cheltenham, but we’re not leaning towards anything just yet.

          "He’s a dual winner of the Stayers, but – on his run at Christmas – he’ll have to take a good step forward to win the National Hunt Chase."

          Sounds more like stayers to me?
          I would say a lot would also depend if he has been able to secure a top amatuer like Barry or not that would be vital

          If he hasn't then easy to see why he wouldn't go.

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          • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
            Via RTC….WilliamHill:

            "He has entries in the Stayers Hurdle and the National Hunt Chase at Cheltenham, but we’re not leaning towards anything just yet.

            "He’s a dual winner of the Stayers, but – on his run at Christmas – he’ll have to take a good step forward to win the National Hunt Chase."

            Sounds more like stayers to me?
            I would think fp in the stayers would sway jack towards teehupoo..

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            • Sir Gerhard on track for Stayers.

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              • I know it's looking a woeful division this year but Crambo is a sea of blue tonight and into 6/1. Can only assume someone has stuck him up somewhere!

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                • Understandable when you start going through the market. An up and comer, against a bunch of has-beens and never-beens!

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                  • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                    Understandable when you start going through the market. An up and comer, against a bunch of has-beens and never-beens!
                    On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is Crambo to win the Stayers Hurdle this season?

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                      On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is Crambo to win the Stayers Hurdle this season?
                      6.5 for me

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                      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                        On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is Crambo to win the Stayers Hurdle this season?
                        I'd go with a 7.

                        He has proven that he has the ability to mix it with the British horses, and I'm not sure the Irish are all that strong either.

                        Of the Irish....
                        Teahupoo had no excuses last year and got beat by an 11 year old.
                        Sir G has the class but will he stay?
                        Noble Yeats, Monfish (GC?) and Flooring Porter (NHC?) wouldn't worry me too much.

                        I'd have Irish Point as the likeliest winner but doesn't sound like he'll run.

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                        • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                          I'd go with a 7.

                          He has proven that he has the ability to mix it with the British horses, and I'm not sure the Irish are all that strong either.

                          Of the Irish....
                          Teahupoo had no excuses last year and got beat by an 11 year old.
                          Sir G has the class but will he stay?
                          Noble Yeats, Monfish (GC?) and Flooring Porter (NHC?) wouldn't worry me too much.

                          I'd have Irish Point as the likeliest winner but doesn't sound like he'll run.
                          I'd go with this too, now.

                          At the beginning I was thinking a 3 or a 4 , but how the market has dissipated somewhat, it's hard not to think a handicapper could win this seasons race.

                          The actual race, in terms of quality I have at about 4 out of 10 now Of all the G1's this one excites me the least. I'd rather the Ryanair, which Kevloaf will love, haha!

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                            I'd go with this too, now.

                            At the beginning I was thinking a 3 or a 4 , but how the market has dissipated somewhat, it's hard not to think a handicapper could win this seasons race.

                            The actual race, in terms of quality I have at about 4 out of 10 now Of all the G1's this one excites me the least. I'd rather the Ryanair, which Kevloaf will love, haha!
                            It looks fairly gash, doesn't it.

                            One of my main worries with Crambo would be who gets the ride. He's not going to have one of the big names riding. Burke probably keeps the ride which is fair, I suppose.

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                            • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                              I'd go with a 7.

                              He has proven that he has the ability to mix it with the British horses, and I'm not sure the Irish are all that strong either.

                              Of the Irish....
                              Teahupoo had no excuses last year and got beat by an 11 year old.
                              Sir G has the class but will he stay?
                              Noble Yeats, Monfish (GC?) and Flooring Porter (NHC?) wouldn't worry me too much.

                              I'd have Irish Point as the likeliest winner but doesn't sound like he'll run.
                              Teahupoo had plenty of excuses with the way last years renewal was run

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is Crambo to win the Stayers Hurdle this season?
                                1.5

                                Probably a 7/1 shot to me

                                Has his chance but will need to find another 10lb on his beating of Paisley Park to be mixing it with teahupoo and irish point

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