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2024 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

    Trainer probably wouldve preferred that route at the start of the season.
    lobos that was an impressive run
    he's give 12lbs and 15lbs to the front two who are not 124 and 127 horses
    he's been given an absolute shocking ride
    I will make my full case within due course
    Not sure he was travelling that well on the 2nd circuit, think he made it difficult for the jockey to do
    much else to be honest

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    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

      Not sure he was travelling that well on the 2nd circuit, think he made it difficult for the jockey to do
      much else to be honest
      I see it as the other way around, jockey was 3/4 wide whole 2nd circuit
      Watch his sandown win and you'll see how this horse needs to be ridden

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      • Reminder for everyone to just back the French good thing and leave this race alone until the day.

        You can tie yourself in knots trying to find an improving horse, but they've got over 20 pounds to find to get near Theleme. Crambo should have won off 139 to be near Stayers class. The front 2 are too close to the others to say they've got a massive amount in hand as well.

        It wouldn't surprise me to see the front 4 going for Pertemps qualifiers, or the front 2 taking on the 3m handicap hurdle at the DRF, which is similar prize money to the Pertemps.

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        • what he says ^^

          The wins all.

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          • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
            what he says ^^

            The wins all.
            Yeah I know he’s home and hosed, but just humour us !!!

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            • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

              I see it as the other way around, jockey was 3/4 wide whole 2nd circuit
              Watch his sandown win and you'll see how this horse needs to be ridden
              I know this was a step up in distance, but same jockey who knows the horse, would think he would know how to ride him.
              I will stick to my thinking the horse did him no favours.
              Anyway we can see how he does next time,but right now I don’t see the improvement needed.

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              • Theleme Sur Le Snaff

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                • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                  Reminder for everyone to just back the French good thing and leave this race alone until the day.

                  You can tie yourself in knots trying to find an improving horse, but they've got over 20 pounds to find to get near Theleme. Crambo should have won off 139 to be near Stayers class. The front 2 are too close to the others to say they've got a massive amount in hand as well.

                  It wouldn't surprise me to see the front 4 going for Pertemps qualifiers, or the front 2 taking on the 3m handicap hurdle at the DRF, which is similar prize money to the Pertemps.
                  Tbf theyve got 20 pounds to find with Teahupoo as well, who like the fav is only 6 so is quite entitled to improve again.

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                  • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                    Tbf theyve got 20 pounds to find with Teahupoo as well, who like the fav is only 6 so is quite entitled to improve again.
                    Strange that there’s 20lb difference yet Theleme is slight fav
                    Can you help me understand that?
                    Or anyone??

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                    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                      Strange that there’s 20lb difference yet Theleme is slight fav
                      Can you help me understand that?
                      Or anyone??
                      No the handicappers not theleme. Theleme is posting rprs in the 160s. Apologies for not making it clearer.

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                      • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                        No the handicappers not theleme. Theleme is posting rprs in the 160s. Apologies for not making it clearer.
                        Ah ok , cheers for clarifying

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                        • Sir Gerhard looking Willie’s main play now then for this
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                          • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                            Sir Gerhard looking Willie’s main play now then for this
                            How? He made a debut over fences

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                            • Originally posted by Ray View Post

                              How? He made a debut over fences
                              And took a bad tumble. He simply isn't a chaser.

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                              • Neither is Gaelic warrior. Simply dreadful and can’t stay
                                sir gerhard might surprise in the savilles this Xmas time. Possibly
                                especially if there’s an upset in the durkan

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