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  • #16
    Think we’re all pretty sure of this here anyway but in the attheraces season preview yesterday Matt Chapman text Ricci who replied that ‘the intention at the moment is to stay hurdling’ with Gaelic Warrior

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    • #17
      Flooring Porter going novice chasing:

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      • #18
        12/1 Teahupoo is some of the best value left in the antepost market. Gaelic Warrior could step up & be very hard to beat but both are young enough to still have plenty of improvement in them & GW’s slight tendencies to jump right might cost him at the top table.

        I’ve backed both but the price disparity between the two is just to big!

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        • #19
          Im a huge Theleme fan.

          Winner of the big 3m Auteuil race at the end of last season beating the likes of Klassical dream, porter, Hewick, asterion and others fairly comfortably.
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          The plan this season is for him to come across for the festival, hes currently 16/1 and that's a huge price in my eyes.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by darlojim View Post
            Im a huge Theleme fan.

            Winner of the big 3m Auteuil race at the end of last season beating the likes of Klassical dream, porter, Hewick, asterion and others fairly comfortably.
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            The plan this season is for him to come across for the festival, hes currently 16/1 and that's a huge price in my eyes.
            Trouble is we've Heard this so many times with these French superstars and more often than not they stay at home. Just can't trust them to come over.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by darlojim View Post
              Im a huge Theleme fan.

              Winner of the big 3m Auteuil race at the end of last season beating the likes of Klassical dream, porter, Hewick, asterion and others fairly comfortably.
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              The plan this season is for him to come across for the festival, hes currently 16/1 and that's a huge price in my eyes.
              Wow! I didn’t know that was the plan. He was one I was wondering about given the obvious form lines and his awesome performance last week. Do you have a link to quotes?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                Wow! I didn’t know that was the plan. He was one I was wondering about given the obvious form lines and his awesome performance last week. Do you have a link to quotes?
                Charly Milpied replied to someone on twitter saying it was the plan (possibly bloggsy) , Im guessing he'd know/have been told as hes a french journo

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                  Charly Milpied replied to someone on twitter saying it was the plan (possibly bloggsy) , Im guessing he'd know/have been told as hes a french journo
                  Ok. I did read they were considering the stayers after Auteuil last year but it sounded like they were mulling things over then rather than planning.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
                    12/1 Teahupoo is some of the best value left in the antepost market. Gaelic Warrior could step up & be very hard to beat but both are young enough to still have plenty of improvement in them & GW’s slight tendencies to jump right might cost him at the top table.

                    I’ve backed both but the price disparity between the two is just to big!
                    It’s not a bad price but he is reliant on the ground being softer, could say he is half to a stone better with cut.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                      Charly Milpied replied to someone on twitter saying it was the plan (possibly bloggsy) , Im guessing he'd know/have been told as hes a french journo
                      Whoever the french expert is on Sky Sports racing also confirmed on Sat morning that connections have said that the plan is to come over for the stayers hurdle.

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                      • #26
                        Theleme vs Gaelic Warrior, yes please.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Madmoose View Post

                          It’s not a bad price but he is reliant on the ground being softer, could say he is half to a stone better with cut.
                          Rob Acheson seemed to think he wasn’t as ground dependent as people make out on the We’re Going Chasing Robcour special. He also could barely contain his excitement at how well he’s summered & filled out. He wouldn’t ordinarily be one to put his neck on the line about one of their own so it was a mention that really stood out to me.

                          Also he got an awful casual ride from Davy last season & I can’t see Jack having him so far off the pace in future.

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                          • #28
                            He's still definitely better on soft ground though. I'd say it has to be a sub-standard race for him to win, when it actually could be one of the better renewals in recent seasons. It doesn't always play out that way though.

                            I was discussing with someone yesterday the need to be 100% on the day, no boiling over in the parade ring, calm on the way down, optimum conditions, and luck in running to win a G1 at the Festival. That or just be clear best like Constitution Hill or El Fabiolo.

                            I'd say Teahupoo needs exactly that to win. He is a bet for my book, but if I was looking for a single winner of the race this far out it wouldn't be him. Of course all those things he needs to be at his best could come right on the day though, and if so he'd be interesting.
                            Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                            • #29
                              Scrambling for some Teahupoo and Thelme prices now. Some timed that right.

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                              • #30
                                Unsurprisingly.. that Gaelic news is a real stinger. Big dent to me for the season already and it hasn’t even properly started yet.

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