2024 Stayers Hurdle

[Lobos]

Interesting to see Bob Olinger has no Christmas entries over fences. Neither is he entered in the Jack De Bromhead 3 miler. But he is in the 2 mile hurdle. Looks as though they fancy Bob as a short-midtrip horse over hurdles.

Yep. No festival for him unfortunately. There's simply no race for him over hurdles. Aintree hurdle a certainty.

[Lobos]

The two are kind of linked though. If Gaelic warrior fluffs his lines and they decide to target the stayers hurdle with him, then that may lead them to giving sir Gerhard another go over fences since they'd already have their big stayers hurdle candidate in Gaelic warrior.

Not linked at all imo. The only race SG could possibly go for over fences at the Fez would be the Ryanair and the owners already have Allaho and Envoi for that. They don't need another one. He'll go to the Stayers. Willie is playing games saying they'll try him over fences one more time. They simply can't take the risk after getting injured chasing last time.

[riccirich]

He just doesn't seem to go all out to win the stayers though as much as he does other races, it tends to be just one good dart with Townend aboard and then maybe a roughie or two. So sending two of his big guns to it would be a little different, but could happen. I think Sir Gerhard could go for the gold cup if staying over fences, I wouldn't agree with it personally as I'd have enough doubts about him getting the stayers trip, never mind the gold cup trip, but Mullins himself has always spoke about the horse as if stamina isn't an issue so I don't think he'd be against going that way.

[Lobos]

Looking at the current Stayers betting, if we take IEP (Going CH) out, Sir G sits joint 4th fav and the first in the list of Mullins horses.

[Guinness Village]

How about applying common sense to the stayers market and looking at the obvious.
id rather have Christopher Biggins over Tyson fury in a fist fight than thinking sir gerhard or Gaelic warrior will even turn up let alone win a stayers hurdle.

[riccirich]

Looking at the current Stayers betting, if we take IEP (Going CH) out, Sir G sits joint 4th fav and the first in the list of Mullins horses.

I agree that sir g is more likely than Gaelic to run in it, my original post was just in reply to what would happen if Gaelic didn't take to fences, in that case I think he'd be more likely to run in it than sir g, and probably go back to being one of the faves as he was when everyone thought he was staying over hurdles.

[Lobos]

Yep. Agree with that RR.

[BuckingThe Trend]

How about applying common sense to the stayers market and looking at the obvious.
id rather have Christopher Biggins over Tyson fury in a fist fight than thinking sir gerhard or Gaelic warrior will even turn up let alone win a stayers hurdle.

Seriously. I'm keeping this one !

[AaronLad]

Leading owner Chris Giles knows a Grade 1 horse when he has one and is convinced Crambo will win the ?125,000 Betfair "Serial Winners" Stayers' Handicap Hurdle (2.20) at Haydock on Saturday and announce himself a serious contender for the Stayers' Hurdle.

Giles shares ownership of the exciting Fergal O'Brien-trained prospect with Jared Sullivan, with whom he also owned Grade 1 winners Zarkandar and Silviniaco Conti. His famous pink and purple silks have also been carried by the likes of Greaneteen and Stay Away Fay, and he is confident the progressive Crambo will shorten for Cheltenham Festival glory after the handicap hurdle. He has already backed him at 33-1 for the Stayers'.

Crambo won the valuable EBF Final at Sandown last season and returned to action with a smooth victory in the same race Paisley Park won at Aintree before taking Saturday's contest, the Long Walk, Cleeve and Stayers' in a spectacular season in 2018-19, and Giles is full of belief Crambo can chart a similar path to the festival
Giles thinks the six-year-old should be well suited to the demands of the staying hurdle division and said: "I think the world of him and in terms of scope and size he's quite like Paisley Park. He's a lovely looking horse and quite compact.

"I love his attitude and the way he travels. He's a beautiful jumper and it's a struggle to find faults – he's definitely one of my favourite horses. He's versatile but he won the EBF Final on really quite heavy ground, so the juice in conditions at Haydock should suit him. He's had excuses for both of his Grade 1 flops and at Aintree he was hampered at a crucial stage of the race.

"You wouldn't be frightened of anything in the current division if you owned an up-and-coming horse. Fergal would probably have favoured going the Pertemps route this season but fortune favours the brave and you've got to grasp the nettle."

He added: "About two or three weeks ago I backed him at 33s for the Stayers' with Sky Bet, but I was limited. I'm thinking about trying to get another ?250 on him each-way because he's going to be 10s or 12s if he wins on Saturday.
Giles, who suggested Sandown on December 8 is "set in stone" for Stay Away Fay's next start, also provided a positive update on sidelined three-time Grade 1 winner Greaneteen, who he believes is an "outside bet that shouldn't be ignored" in the Champion Chase. He is a 50-1 chance for the day two highlight with Paddy Power, having finished fourth in the 2021 running and third in March despite making a bad mistake.
Of the Paul Nicholls-trained chaser, he said: "Greaneteen is sidelined with a fractured pelvis. He was given a wind operation in the summer as we thought he was struggling with his wind after the won the Haldon Gold Cup and he could go straight to the Champion Chase.

"We still think he's a great two-miler – he travels and he likes Cheltenham. I'm still very excited by him, he's lightly raced, he's only going to be nine going on ten and there's still a lot of juice there. Paul is going to have him as fit as a fiddle.

"It was great to see Jonbon the other day. He's obviously a super horse and he could be the next Sprinter Sacre, but the two-mile division tires these horses out. Greaneteen goes well fresh and I think he's an outside bet that shouldn't be ignored

An article from the racing post

If you're a backer of crambo you just have to love the bullishness of chris giles.
I'm not saying that it always comes to fruition but it gives you that extra bit of hope...... until at least saturday.

[Lobos]

That's a great read. Wish owners/trainers were all as open and honest as that. Jonbon the next Sprinter !!

[BuckingThe Trend]

I know it has been said multiple times but this race looks wide open to a long shot winner. I don't really like any of those at the head of the betting. Spent some time trawling through the longer odds horses and I have put my money down on both CRAMBO at 33/1 and BUDDY ONE at 25/1. Previously bet SIR GERHARD at 25/1. Now I am going to walk away from this race of a few months or I might just find another few. If the Frenchie wins I'll be gutted !!!!!

[Ice]

I know it has been said multiple times but this race looks wide open to a long shot winner. I don't really like any of those at the head of the betting. Spent some time trawling through the longer odds horses and I have put my money down on both CRAMBO at 33/1 and BUDDY ONE at 25/1. Previously bet SIR GERHARD at 25/1. Now I am going to walk away from this race of a few months or I might just find another few. If the Frenchie wins I'll be gutted !!!!!

I've backed crambo wtaf, he should be winning this if he's gonna be in the mix at the festival, i reckon.

[Carnage at Taunton]

I've backed crambo wtaf, he should be winning this if he's gonna be in the mix at the festival, i reckon.

Me too, missed the 80’s but happy to take 50’s

[Ice]

Me too, missed the 80’s but happy to take 50’s

Aftertime on price but i got the 80's, thanks to eggs highlighting it. All it's got to do now is win two races, sounds simple enough !

[Istabraq]

Aftertime on price but i got the 80's, :

+1 in the dislike button vote.
Only joking, best of luck to everyone who snares a price...