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Who will be Mullins Triumph Horse?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Frankely My Dear View Post
    From OJA I take Majborough as one to take note of, his time in the Prix Grandak looks favourable against Sir Gino. Still to look further into Kargese but I have noted that one down for some reason.

    Need 365 to pull their finger out, restricted with Hills
    Hard enough to compare times on races ran the same day with different paces/field sizes but races ran couple weeks apart on different ground I wouldn't take much notice to be honest.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Spectre View Post
      I think Salvator Mundi and Bunting may be held back to next season. Certainly the former.

      I suspect Kargesse, Majborough, and Karia Des Blaises will be his main juvenile darts. There'll probably be something else come out of the woodwork too. Willie seems to like more and more juveniles to go to war with, and likes a top dart for the Boodles too.

      On a line through Kaid de Ciergues, Karia des Blaises would be a stone behind the likes of Sir Gino and Salvator Mundi, so she might be one to handicap for the Boodles. Kargesse and Majborough are probably the ones to concentrate on, and Bunting too if he gets an entry.
      Hi Spectre is that something youve heard re Salvator Mundi or your own take with him being a novice, Ive not backed yet as im concerned with them maybe waiting till next year. He is the most interesting for me if they decide to get him out this season.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by billymag View Post

        Hi Spectre is that something youve heard re Salvator Mundi or your own take with him being a novice, Ive not backed yet as im concerned with them maybe waiting till next year. He is the most interesting for me if they decide to get him out this season.
        Been a good few whispers going round twitter now that he is going to be held back

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Spectre View Post
          I think Salvator Mundi and Bunting may be held back to next season. Certainly .
          I know a few in here are keen on Bunting so that won’t please many.
          Is there any history of Mullins holding back a JP horse ?
          l always believed JP bought his horses to run them as soon as they’re ready…

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

            I know a few in here are keen on Bunting so that won’t please many.
            Is there any history of Mullins holding back a JP horse ?
            l always believed JP bought his horses to run them as soon as they’re ready…
            Aren’t they Donnellys and Tony Bloom owned?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

              Aren’t they Donnellys and Tony Bloom owned?
              Yep, Majborough is the JP one at Willies

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              • #37
                Sorry my mistake, I thought Bunting was JP.
                Thanks for correcting…

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                  Hard enough to compare times on races ran the same day with different paces/field sizes but races ran couple weeks apart on different ground I wouldn't take much notice to be honest.
                  True but it's all I've got at the moment

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                    I know a few in here are keen on Bunting so that won’t please many.
                    Is there any history of Mullins holding back a JP horse ?
                    l always believed JP bought his horses to run them as soon as they’re ready…
                    There aren't many Ista, but one from last year who was held back was Joueur Masque. He features in last year's and this year's OJA.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

                      There aren't many Ista, but one from last year who was held back was Joueur Masque. He features in last year's and this year's OJA.
                      Thanks, do you still have the comments from 2022 OJA ?
                      Could be very useful…

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                        Thanks, do you still have the comments from 2022 OJA ?
                        Could be very useful…
                        "It remains to be seen whether the JP McManus / Willie Mullins recruit races this term but the Masked Marvel gelding ought to be worth the wait. A half brother to the aforementioned Intranet, he was owned in France by Guy Cherel and trained by Daniela Mele. He was a comfortable winner of an AQPS flat race at Vichy (1m 4f: soft) in late May making all and staying on strongly. A length and a quarter scorer from previous winner Jet Blue, it is possible he will be given time to mature and brought back next Autumn as a four year old. Either way, he is one for the notebook. James Reveley remarks: " I rode him at home and liked him a lot. A nice scopey type, I was looking forward to riding him over hurdles before he was sold."

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                        • #42
                          He’s one I really like. The way he won his AQPS caught the eye at the time and the second has won a Grade 2 race since. I liked that it appears to have been a plan to hold him back rather than it being happenstance too.
                          Last edited by Exar Essay; 4 October 2023, 10:09 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

                            "It remains to be seen whether the JP McManus / Willie Mullins recruit races this term but the Masked Marvel gelding ought to be worth the wait. A half brother to the aforementioned Intranet, he was owned in France by Guy Cherel and trained by Daniela Mele. He was a comfortable winner of an AQPS flat race at Vichy (1m 4f: soft) in late May making all and staying on strongly. A length and a quarter scorer from previous winner Jet Blue, it is possible he will be given time to mature and brought back next Autumn as a four year old. Either way, he is one for the notebook. James Reveley remarks: " I rode him at home and liked him a lot. A nice scopey type, I was looking forward to riding him over hurdles before he was sold."
                            Many thanks, some confidence of ability in there…

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                            • #44
                              Sorry for the slow response. To answer both BillyMag and Istabraq, I don't have any specific information other than the usual approach.

                              Both would fit the bill of horses that are either held back, or race very late for experience, but are more likely to place than win so they keep their novice status for next season.

                              Of the two I'd say Bunting is more likely to run than Salvator Mundi who, I think will be saved for next season.
                              Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                              • #45
                                Our man has six dark horses to follow this season including new recruits for Willie Mullins, Nicky Henderson, Gordon Elliott and Paul Nicholls.


                                Found this on Sporting Life - by Mark Howard
                                Is basically lifted from his book - but this seems to suggest that Bunting will be racing this season and should take high rank

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