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2024 Novice Chasers

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  • Assuming Fact to File goes RSA as it appears this is the current plan.
    And the French horse doesn't bother.

    We then have a handicapper as Favourite or Gaelic Warrior or Facile Vega ? - all with question marks.

    I've looked at this market, actually at the weekend just gone and backed Imagine B365 NRNB 40-1 - He's gone to an ambitious trainer in Harry Derham and IMO, Gordon was campaigning him as a handicapper again. So he may be better than his mark of 146. The trainer has stated that they hope to run.

    Big-money buys Imagine and Mollys Mango could both head to the Cheltenham Festival having been picked up by Harry Derham at the Andy and Gemma Brown dispersal last week.


    A way of looking at it is if Gordon had sent Imagine over for the handicap at Cheltenham that Ginny's destiny just won of 147, what price would he have been ?

    40-1 NRNB each way is very much a value bet in a race that may open up considerably.
    Paddypower & Sky have cut to 14-1.
    Last edited by Quevega; 16 February 2024, 11:42 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
      Assuming Fact to File goes RSA as it appears this is the current plan.
      And the French horse doesn't bother.

      We then have a handicapper as Favourite or Gaelic Warrior or Facile Vega ? - all with question marks.

      I've looked at this market, actually at the weekend just gone and backed Imagine B365 NRNB 40-1 - He's gone to an ambitious trainer in Harry Derham and IMO, Gordon was campaigning him as a handicapper again. So he may be better than his mark of 146. The trainer has stated that they hope to run.

      Big-money buys Imagine and Mollys Mango could both head to the Cheltenham Festival having been picked up by Harry Derham at the Andy and Gemma Brown dispersal last week.


      A way of looking at it is if Gordon had sent Imagine over for the handicap at Cheltenham that Ginny's destiny just won of 147, what price would he have been ?

      40-1 NRNB each way is very much a value bet in a race that may open up considerably.
      Paddypower & Sky have cut to 14-1.
      66/1 for risk takers.... Turners

      I looked at BANC first, whoops

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      • PS.
        I've not seen an announcement anywhere, but Ile de Francais may have been scratched from the Turners as he's been removed from the exchange market and many of the bookmakers.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
          PS.
          I've not seen an announcement anywhere, but Ile de Francais may have been scratched from the Turners as he's been removed from the exchange market and many of the bookmakers.
          Think they’ve confirmed the race in auteuil and skipping Cheltenham Q.

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          • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

            Think they’ve confirmed the race in auteuil and skipping Cheltenham Q.
            Yeah I'd seen that, but he was left in the entries after Tuesday.
            But seems he's subsequently been scratched officially.

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            • I've banged the same drum a fair while now, but 8/1 Facile Vega NRNB is a must bet, IMO.

              He's bred for further and could really come into his own over 2m4f. He's well ahead on last seasons hurdle form of Ginny's Destiny.

              Gaelic can't go left handed, and Iroko has been off for a fair while and will take some training performance to get him bang on for this.

              Fact To File is seemingly going for the BANC so by default we are left with Facile Vega, who absolutely has to be stepped up in trip, and I have no doubt Willie will see sense prior to declarations.

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              • Grey Dawning NRNB could be Turners play

                if he switches, should prob be fav
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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                  I've banged the same drum a fair while now, but 8/1 Facile Vega NRNB is a must bet, IMO.

                  He's bred for further and could really come into his own over 2m4f. He's well ahead on last seasons hurdle form of Ginny's Destiny.

                  Gaelic can't go left handed, and Iroko has been off for a fair while and will take some training performance to get him bang on for this.

                  Fact To File is seemingly going for the BANC so by default we are left with Facile Vega, who absolutely has to be stepped up in trip, and I have no doubt Willie will see sense prior to declarations.
                  8-1 is long gone.
                  The prices immediately at the top are now too short.
                  I covered most last week when the browns was mentioned for FtF as B365 had him at 15/8 NRNB for that, so they went in doubles.
                  I'll re assess after Tuesday if he loses.

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                    8-1 is long gone.
                    The prices immediately at the top are now too short.
                    I covered most last week when the browns was mentioned for FtF as B365 had him at 15/8 NRNB for that, so they went in doubles.
                    I'll re assess after Tuesday if he loses.
                    Oh, he was 8/1 yesterday, I know, because I backed him in a multiple

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                    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                      Oh, he was 8/1 yesterday, I know, because I backed him in a multiple
                      Yeah, it looks like the scratching of the french one and more willie comments this morning - has caused the market to adjust.

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                      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                        Yeah, it looks like the scratching of the french one and more willie comments this morning - has caused the market to adjust.
                        Makes sense. Obviously I hadn't checked the markets before my post.

                        I did say a while back though that the 7/1 with Hills was a must bet, I went in on this, then 365 stuck 8's up for him after the DRF which was lovely for multiples.

                        I think Facile wins the Turners if they send him there, and backed this opinion by making him my biggest winner in the race.

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                        • Paul Townend's two best rides in the novice chases look to be FV & GW. Surely they will be split... If Ruby was still around is don't think it would even be in question

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                          • FTF going BANC is absolute mustard, love that

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                            • Originally posted by FredFlintstone View Post
                              Paul Townend's two best rides in the novice chases look to be FV & GW. Surely they will be split... If Ruby was still around is don't think it would even be in question
                              He'll probably ride Il Etait Temps in the Arkle now, won't he?

                              Won the key trial for the race in Ireland beating pretty much everything at the top of the betting anyway.

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                              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                                He'll probably ride Il Etait Temps in the Arkle now, won't he?

                                Won the key trial for the race in Ireland beating pretty much everything at the top of the betting anyway.
                                Thought Willie said Danny keeps ride on IET?

                                Get Hunters Yarn in ….solves issue

                                Tho my guess is FV Arkle & GW Turners still
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