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  • Its 4 weeks until the NHC id imagine the instructions were to just qualify. Safe qualifying round of jumping without throwing the kitchen sink at the horse. As a backer of NR im very happy with that.
    lacks the class of a BANC horse and it surely means EG goes the BANC now.

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    • Aye, promising for Nick Rocket NHC backers that. Probably about as well as it could've gone in fact.

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      • Maybe we arent giving American Mike enough credit too. Hes beaten FTF and now Nick Rocket with Cocooner 14 lengths back in 3rd, with a blip in between when gordons horses were running awful. If you can supplement im sure they will thinking about doing so for the BANC

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        • Irish National I reckon for Mike. He's a specialist around Navan, next years Troytown would be right up his street

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          • Originally posted by Jrow View Post
            it surely means EG goes the BANC now.
            Not sure what Embassy Gardens has done to suddenly become a grade 1 animal? Would be strange given how he's been campaigned so far this season.

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            • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post

              Agree with you here Lobos - I'd say Fact To File Turners, Embassy Gardens NHC and then the rest to the Browns in hope rather than expectation could be the way he'll go.

              That way, they have 2 leading chances in the novice chases rather than 1.
              Yeah, I can see that makes sense
              Personally I think FTF is a serious chance of winning either race and equally EG in the NHC
              FTF is their best nov chaser and EG is their best over a bit longer is how I see it
              Wherever FTF don’t go is a lot more wide open race than a race he does run in imo

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              • Bizarre race. Rockett and Coconer could run reasonably well in the NHC, but I wouldn’t bank on either of them winning.

                Willie basically has two good darts for three races: Embassy for the NHC, and FTF for either the BANC or the Turners. If Embassy ran in the BANC, WM is giving up a superb chance of winning a festival race, and he doesn’t do it lightly, so personally I can’t see Embassy going BANC - he’d go to being a reasonable chance instead of a favourite.

                I think he will recognise this, and the rest will slot in around those two.

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                • They'll speak to Patrick and see what he wants to ride. Neither EG or NR will win the BANC so they'll see what Patrick wants to ride in the National Hunt Chase as that will be their best chance of a winner.

                  The other goes to the BANC as an also ran.

                  I've thought Fact to File goes the BANC since his 2nd to American Mike but he was there for a day out first time up. Wasn't ridden to win, just like Walsh rode Inthepocket and Corbetts Cross first time. I do think Fact to File goes Turners now though. I don't think beating Ginny's Destiny is any easier than beating Stay Away Fay so it's not an easier race but his win at the DRF was a monster performance. He would have beat Gaelic Warrior even if he was on his A game. He'd win the Ryanair this year for me in what's a piss poor division and even if Il Est Francis turned up, I'd have Fact to File to beat him over the mid trip or further. That's how good he is.

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                  • Still got Gaelic Warrior and Facile Vega as potentials for the Turners. F2F to the BANC then EG to the NHC. That's his best chance of winning all 3 races I'd say, and how I'd see it currently.

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                    • Sounds like Irish National for AM
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                      • Originally posted by Dandrew99 View Post
                        Still got Gaelic Warrior and Facile Vega as potentials for the Turners. F2F to the BANC then EG to the NHC. That's his best chance of winning all 3 races I'd say, and how I'd see it currently.

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                        Me too, just about my thoughts right now

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                        • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                          Sounds like Irish National for AM
                          16/1 NRNB for the Turners

                          101/1 NRNB related double with Found A Fifty in the Arkle

                          For anyone interested in American Mike



                          Didn't sound like Cheltenham was at the front of his mind though did it!

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                          • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post

                            Agree with you here Lobos - I'd say Fact To File Turners, Embassy Gardens NHC and then the rest to the Browns in hope rather than expectation could be the way he'll go.

                            That way, they have 2 leading chances in the novice chases rather than 1.
                            Exactly as I see it. Whilst I believe F2F would win both races, SAF and Grey Dawning will be harder opponents in the BANC and I don't see Willie having anything else that looks a certainty in the Turners. EG now looks a deserved fav in the NHC after that race today.

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                            • Originally posted by That Horse View Post

                              Not sure what Embassy Gardens has done to suddenly become a grade 1 animal? Would be strange given how he's been campaigned so far this season.
                              Nail on head. Galliard was a better animal last year and went NHC.

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                              • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                                Sounds like Irish National for AM
                                I'd imagine they'll be looking at the same for Nick Rockett and Cocooner now as well.

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