2024 Novice Chasers

[Quevega]

That's annoying. "If it looks a weak race" !!
Highly likely he'll run then.


Didn't get much of a break did he ?

[isitmarchyet]

Read it just now, entered as a precaution and likely won't go. If it turned out to be a weak race, that could change their minds. He's come back from a break in rude health.
Referenced the joint agreement between the owners that french gold cup is prioritised this year with Cheltenham gold cup in 2025.

As you were.

Basically if Gaelic Warrior isn't there then

[Quevega]

Basically if Gaelic Warrior isn't there then

Imagine if they do run him in the Irish arkle and he beats Marine ?

[isitmarchyet]

Imagine if they do run him in the Irish arkle and he beats Marine ?

Still think it's a possibility. Would love to see him run there and have a crack at Marine.

I will admit I have backed GW for the Arkle at a decent price, so a bit of wishful thinking there too

[FinalFurlong91]

GD sems to have had a lot of races this year....sounds like they plan a 5th pre Chelt

Is this a concern? Think if Chelt was the priority, then they would not run again?

He's best on soft ground so makes sense for them to run him regularly when the ground is in his favour

[FinalFurlong91]

Imagine if they do run him in the Irish arkle and he beats Marine ?

Gaelic and facile to the Irish arkle

Grangeclare and fact to file to the flogas

Seems perfectly plausible

[Quevega]

Gaelic and facile to the Irish arkle

Grangeclare and fact to file to the flogas

Seems perfectly plausible

market vibes suggest Gaelic might skip Dublin.
But I'm also involved at daft prices and related doubles so hoping he runs

[Mighty]

Timeform have rated Grey Dawning highly:

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/timeform-analysis-or-grey-dawning-a-brown-advisory-contender/215184

Timeform’s highest-rated novice chasers:


160P Il Est Francais

159p Marine Nationale

158p Gaelic Warrior

158 Grey Dawning

157p Fact To File

Not sure how I react to that. GD has a mistake in him, as shown at Cheltenham against Ginny’s Destiny, and also his jumping at the last two at Warwick was pretty ropey to say the least…

[Runragged]

Timeform have rated Grey Dawning highly:

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/timeform-analysis-or-grey-dawning-a-brown-advisory-contender/215184

Timeform’s highest-rated novice chasers:


160P Il Est Francais

159p Marine Nationale

158p Gaelic Warrior

158 Grey Dawning

157p Fact To File

Not sure how I react to that. GD has a mistake in him, as shown at Cheltenham against Ginny’s Destiny, and also his jumping at the last two at Warwick was pretty ropey to say the least…

Yes, he does, certainly at the shorter trip. The Scilly Isles would tell us more with regard his jumping. Not sure about the "ropey" last two, think Skelton was just being careful when it was clear he had the measure of Apple Away at the 2nd last and then when readily pulled clear by the last fence.

Looks like it confirms a 160 RPR for him if they take a similar view as both Fact To File and Gaelic Warrior got a 160 RPR for their last outings.

[Lobos]

I was hugely impressed by Grey Dawning. Not worried at all re his jumping. Even taking into account the front two going at it, he didn't just pick them up he demolished them and both are good horses. His Timeform rating being on a par with Gaelic gives me further confidence that'll he'll go Turners as for me that looks the softer race and he'll have no issues dropping back in trip. He's very good.

[Exar Essay]

market vibes suggest Gaelic might skip Dublin.
But I'm also involved at daft prices and related doubles so hoping he runs

Andrew Blair White said on LTR+ that he picked up, when behind the scenes at RTC, that Gaelic Warrior may well run in the Irish Arkle.

[Lobos]

Andrew Blair White said on LTR+ that he picked up, when behind the scenes at RTC, that Gaelic Warrior may well run in the Irish Arkle.

What a race that could be!!


El Fabiolo v Jonbon as well.

We are being spoilt

[Captain Chris]

What a race that could be!!


El Fabiolo v Jonbon as well.

We are being spoilt

Competitive grade 1s? It'll never catch on

[FinalFurlong91]

I'd be laying grey dawning in the scilly Isles

Jumps quite a bit to his left

And his scruffy jumping with the 7 down the back could see him exposed

Could see him struggling in that if they go there

[FinalFurlong91]

What a race that could be!!


El Fabiolo v Jonbon as well.

We are being spoilt

Willie really has nothing to lose running gaelic in that race

Finishing 2nd to marine nationale still leaves him well clear in the turner's

He beats marine nationale he's arkle fav and already beaten the only real opposition