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  • Hard to see a graded festival winner there
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    • Blood Destiny added to the list of shit novices over the shorter trips.

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      • Well I weren’t expecting that!!
        Fair performance from Spillanes, and I would say much improved from his previous chases.
        Going forward I think the front two are both 2 milers, but right now have a lot of work to do to trouble the Arkle fav.
        Thought BD was not so good at the fences as he was at Naas, but do think he’s a good one still.

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        • Basically all the 2 mile novice chasers are crap other than MN, I'm starting to think Djelo might sneak a top 3 place in the Arkle the way it's going at 33/1.

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          • Blood Destiny just isn't a Grade 1 animal. Wasn't as a hurdler and isn't as a chaser. I'm not sure he's even Grade 2 tbh.

            The Hunters Yarn boys can take it as a boost on a line through the 2nd to the winner LTO though. One for you Lobos

            Djelo be a likely candidate for a place in Arkle or Turners imo Speedy17

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            • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
              Blood Destiny just isn't a Grade 1 animal. Wasn't as a hurdler and isn't as a chaser. I'm not sure he's even Grade 2 tbh.

              The Hunters Yarn boys can take it as a boost on a line through the 2nd to the winner LTO though. One for you Lobos

              Djelo be a likely candidate for a place in Arkle or Turners imo Speedy17
              I need to find something in the Turners to put him in an Ew Thievery double, or maybe something in the Champion Chase?

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              • Originally posted by Speedy17 View Post
                Basically all the 2 mile novice chasers are crap other than MN, I'm starting to think Djelo might sneak a top 3 place in the Arkle the way it's going at 33/1.
                He’s entered over 2m Fri
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                • Had to back Hunters Yarn off the back of the that from Blood Destiny. Small form line and a lack of decent chasers for Willie.

                  Fully expecting Facile to go out in trip if beat by Marine Nationale at the DRF.

                  Il Etait Temps will come back in trip, I'm sure of it.

                  Be surprised if Blood Destiny will even turn up at the festival. Clearly a decent enough horse first time up but ultimately looking like a handicapper. He's just been beat by one getting weight, that's for certain.

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                  • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                    Blood Destiny just isn't a Grade 1 animal. Wasn't as a hurdler and isn't as a chaser. I'm not sure he's even Grade 2 tbh.

                    The Hunters Yarn boys can take it as a boost on a line through the 2nd to the winner LTO though. One for you Lobos

                    Djelo be a likely candidate for a place in Arkle or Turners imo Speedy17
                    Well time will tell us more.
                    I for one won’t give up on a young horse who has shown me he can jump a fence so well.
                    Must admit though, right now I would be happy if he’s a non runner at Cheltenham, so I can get my money back!!

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                    • Originally posted by Speedy17 View Post

                      I need to find something in the Turners to put him in an Ew Thievery double, or maybe something in the Champion Chase?
                      Grey Dawning

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                      • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                        Blood Destiny just isn't a Grade 1 animal. Wasn't as a hurdler and isn't as a chaser. I'm not sure he's even Grade 2 tbh.

                        The Hunters Yarn boys can take it as a boost on a line through the 2nd to the winner LTO though. One for you Lobos

                        Djelo be a likely candidate for a place in Arkle or Turners imo Speedy17
                        Yep......those form lines will keep coming and coming for Hunters. Creeping up quietly to the top of the Willie Arkle ladder.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          Yep......those form lines will keep coming and coming for Hunters. Creeping up quietly to the top of the Willie Arkle ladder.
                          I quite agree. Hunters is the wrong price and surely the best of Willie's. Could be another that Daryl Jacob gets jocked off. I think he will keep on improving and if he cuts out his obligatory mistake, he can at least give Marine a race. Each way bet of the week at the moment

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            He was cut to 16/1 by B365 after yesterday's race and into 7/1 NRMB with Hills. 40/1 with Unibet was just ridiculous. Think their odds compiler must have woke up this morning and shat himself.

                            Not sure they'll want to take on SAF again in the BANC especially if it comes up Soft. If he wins the Scilly Isles then I'd expect his Turners odds to crash in.
                            I would have a different take on that, Grey Dawning has obviously improved and probably passed Stay Away Fay, id be pretty sure that Stay away fay needs to show he can run to the level shown by Grey Dawning's last two runs, as he hasnt run to that level yet. Be interesting to see what RPR he gets maybe near to 160, probably 160 is a little high but late 150s id of thought. We will see but hes a great prospect

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                            • Just think that on Soft they'd not want to get in a real battle with SAF as we know he's as hard as nails. They think G Dawning could be a Gold Cup horse next season so maybe they'll go the Galopin route. The Turners could well be the softer option as well especially with the big doubts around Gaelic. He'll get entered for both races so we won't know until decs time I suspect. If he wins well over 2 1/2m on his next run then that will add weight to the Turners target.

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                              • Originally posted by billymag View Post

                                I would have a different take on that, Grey Dawning has obviously improved and probably passed Stay Away Fay, id be pretty sure that Stay away fay needs to show he can run to the level shown by Grey Dawning's last two runs, as he hasnt run to that level yet. Be interesting to see what RPR he gets maybe near to 160, probably 160 is a little high but late 150s id of thought. We will see but hes a great prospect
                                Grey dawning also looked like he absolutely hated going right handed at Exeter

                                The way he jumps he's bound to be 10lb better left handed

                                My main issue with him is that all his form is on soft ground

                                And id worry about his jumping in a very competitive race

                                He doesn't look the most athletic and getting from A to B looks an effort

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