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2024 Novice Chasers
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Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post
You haven’t referenced Grey Dawning who was conceding weight and made a right howler 2 out that cost him lengths. The pair may be re opposing at Warwick . He is available at 40s. Perhaps he will step up to the BANC or do you have other reasons for highlighting Ginnys but not Grey?
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Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
It's not big values because there's little liquidity but...
He was trading around 18 on the exchange for both the Turners and the BANC. He's now 35 to back with not a penny available to lay for the Turners. And 32 to back for the BANC, where you could lay a fiver at 55s if you were certain he was out to be fair...
It's not a spike that's returned to anything like where it started. Which I'd appreciate may have been pushed out slightly due to the shortening of others but not doubled in price.
I hope there's nothing amiss, as a backer, but it's more than you've made it sound. Particularly to those unfamiliar with the exchange. Even those values you mentioned are back values not liability, which I know you're aware of but others may not be...
you do right to point out what you have.
It is small money though and there will be some who will lay off the back of no entry’s at Xmas and cash out.
This Looks like the case to me and his price drift is probably due to the market shuffling after the Xmas period. As others have pressed claims
But I’m guessing
hopefully he’s fit and Xmas was too soon.
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Probably worth opening a Mares chase thread?
Frank Berry no worries on the trip for Dinoblue stepping up and sounded like thats the direction theyre leaning towards, get the feeling one of the big 2 will need to have an issue for plans to change.
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Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post
Definitely think there is a play somewhere it’s just where. I’ve been mulling over the 2 below as I think one of them goes Turners if fit and good enough.
If Fact To File and Indiana Dream are both being aimed at the festival would their ages have an impact on destination?
Indiana Dream being so lightly raced and only 6, could he be Turners bound with Gaelic Warrior. A hard 3m1f for a horse that has obviously had some issues would maybe sway it. That would leave Fact To File as first (or second) string to Grangeclare West depending what happens from here to the festival.
I do wonder if that maybe shuffles Nick Rockett to possibly the Turners?
If he sees Grangeclare and Fact To File as his 3 milers. Nick Rockett could take in the Turners. Never raced beyond 2m5f and PT said he wasn’t short of pace. Really nice win the other day and the first race could argue was a little unlucky where PT had him positioned.
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Originally posted by darlojim View PostProbably worth opening a Mares chase thread?
Frank Berry no worries on the trip for Dinoblue stepping up and sounded like thats the direction theyre leaning towards, get the feeling one of the big 2 will need to have an issue for plans to change.
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Originally posted by darlojim View PostProbably worth opening a Mares chase thread?
Frank Berry no worries on the trip for Dinoblue stepping up and sounded like thats the direction theyre leaning towards, get the feeling one of the big 2 will need to have an issue for plans to change.
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Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post
Hi Rooster Booster, I didn’t mention Grey Dawning because I’m pretty sure Dan said he wasn’t going to the Festival. Not in a position to look for the quote right now but I’ll try later. I also think Ginny’s would beat him off levels too because his jumping is better.
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Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post
Thanks Nortons …I hadn’t seen that quote from Dan. If you find it would be great to see it …thank you sir. (Or if anyone else has got it). We should get to see soon if they re oppose at Warwick.
One novice not mentioned for the Turners is the unbeaten Djelo who I think is great value at 25/1. Been comparisons with L'Homme Presse though I think Djelo is a bit speedier hence why I think Turners rather than BANC. Young, consistent horse who is a grade 2 winner last time. Like the fact he led last time as the track favours horses who can gallop and jump due to the fences making it hard to make up ground in the home straight. Venetia knows what it takes and as said, there is a good chance the race will cut up to a single figure field.
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Nick Rockett is a bigger NRNB price at 16/1 with WH & 888 that he is for the Turners with PP (14/1)
20/1 available too
Interesting each way play? Expecting the race to cut up .... the short PP price suggests it's more of an option and added security at a bigger price if he didn't run, would he be 16s?
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Originally posted by Runragged View Post
One novice not mentioned for the Turners is the unbeaten Djelo who I think is great value at 25/1. Been comparisons with L'Homme Presse though I think Djelo is a bit speedier hence why I think Turners rather than BANC. Young, consistent horse who is a grade 2 winner last time. Like the fact he led last time as the track favours horses who can gallop and jump due to the fences making it hard to make up ground in the home straight. Venetia knows what it takes and as said, there is a good chance the race will cut up to a single figure field.
I really liked his run last time at Ascot, he is another who just goes and attacks his fences from flag fall. If I recall correctly I don’t remember there being any concerns/mistakes with his jumping either. He looked the winner a long long way from home that day
I’d imagine the Grade 1 at Sandown will be on the cards for him stepping up to Grade 1 company for the first time. If no Irish come over he may not have a lot on his hands from the UK.Last edited by Craigy14; 4 January 2024, 02:42 PM.
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