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2024 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
    The machine on the money again. Indiana Dream OFTS along with Inthepocket as confirmed by Frank Berry on Nick Luck's podcast.
    Shame for backers re ID but at least it makes things a bit easier trying to place all these Novice Chasers. More chance now that Nick Rockett falls into a BANC position for Willie perhaps. JP left with Corbetts in BANC and Fact to File in Turners ? Has JP got an Arkle horse ??

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    • Should've left that 'definitely' in my previous post

      Shite news though. For JP and punters.

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      • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

        You haven’t referenced Grey Dawning who was conceding weight and made a right howler 2 out that cost him lengths. The pair may be re opposing at Warwick . He is available at 40s. Perhaps he will step up to the BANC or do you have other reasons for highlighting Ginnys but not Grey?
        Hi Rooster Booster, I didn’t mention Grey Dawning because I’m pretty sure Dan said he wasn’t going to the Festival. Not in a position to look for the quote right now but I’ll try later. I also think Ginny’s would beat him off levels too because his jumping is better.

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        • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

          It's not big values because there's little liquidity but...

          He was trading around 18 on the exchange for both the Turners and the BANC. He's now 35 to back with not a penny available to lay for the Turners. And 32 to back for the BANC, where you could lay a fiver at 55s if you were certain he was out to be fair...

          It's not a spike that's returned to anything like where it started. Which I'd appreciate may have been pushed out slightly due to the shortening of others but not doubled in price.

          I hope there's nothing amiss, as a backer, but it's more than you've made it sound. Particularly to those unfamiliar with the exchange. Even those values you mentioned are back values not liability, which I know you're aware of but others may not be...
          Yeah
          you do right to point out what you have.
          It is small money though and there will be some who will lay off the back of no entry’s at Xmas and cash out.
          This Looks like the case to me and his price drift is probably due to the market shuffling after the Xmas period. As others have pressed claims
          But I’m guessing
          hopefully he’s fit and Xmas was too soon.

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          • Fucks sake
            just seen the news
            lol

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            • Probably worth opening a Mares chase thread?

              Frank Berry no worries on the trip for Dinoblue stepping up and sounded like thats the direction theyre leaning towards, get the feeling one of the big 2 will need to have an issue for plans to change.

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              • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                Definitely think there is a play somewhere it’s just where. I’ve been mulling over the 2 below as I think one of them goes Turners if fit and good enough.

                If Fact To File and Indiana Dream are both being aimed at the festival would their ages have an impact on destination?

                Indiana Dream being so lightly raced and only 6, could he be Turners bound with Gaelic Warrior. A hard 3m1f for a horse that has obviously had some issues would maybe sway it. That would leave Fact To File as first (or second) string to Grangeclare West depending what happens from here to the festival.
                Sorry to quote myself, no need to respond now charlie

                I do wonder if that maybe shuffles Nick Rockett to possibly the Turners?

                If he sees Grangeclare and Fact To File as his 3 milers. Nick Rockett could take in the Turners. Never raced beyond 2m5f and PT said he wasn’t short of pace. Really nice win the other day and the first race could argue was a little unlucky where PT had him positioned.

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                • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                  Probably worth opening a Mares chase thread?

                  Frank Berry no worries on the trip for Dinoblue stepping up and sounded like thats the direction theyre leaning towards, get the feeling one of the big 2 will need to have an issue for plans to change.
                  I'll carry this on in here for now... Impervious also confirmed out for the season. Which would make Dinoblue even more likely for Mares Chase I'd have thought.

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                    Fucks sake
                    just seen the news
                    lol


                    This just reminded me of the old Simpsons Halloween episode where Homer says he thinks he saw Bart's evil twin Hugo boarding a plane to Switzerland

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                    • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                      Probably worth opening a Mares chase thread?

                      Frank Berry no worries on the trip for Dinoblue stepping up and sounded like thats the direction theyre leaning towards, get the feeling one of the big 2 will need to have an issue for plans to change.
                      ….there is one, I opened it in November.

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                      • Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post

                        Hi Rooster Booster, I didn’t mention Grey Dawning because I’m pretty sure Dan said he wasn’t going to the Festival. Not in a position to look for the quote right now but I’ll try later. I also think Ginny’s would beat him off levels too because his jumping is better.
                        Thanks Nortons …I hadn’t seen that quote from Dan. If you find it would be great to see it …thank you sir. (Or if anyone else has got it). We should get to see soon if they re oppose at Warwick.

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                        • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                          Thanks Nortons …I hadn’t seen that quote from Dan. If you find it would be great to see it …thank you sir. (Or if anyone else has got it). We should get to see soon if they re oppose at Warwick.
                          Apparently Harry Skelton said it on a podcast, but that was prior to him then running at Cheltenham. I've tipped Grey Dawning for the BANC with the step up to 3m in the Hampton next likely to suit, especially the slower pace will ease his jumping. He missed the Festival and the Albert Bartlett last season in favour of Aintree just because they didn't want to over race him as a novice hurdler.

                          One novice not mentioned for the Turners is the unbeaten Djelo who I think is great value at 25/1. Been comparisons with L'Homme Presse though I think Djelo is a bit speedier hence why I think Turners rather than BANC. Young, consistent horse who is a grade 2 winner last time. Like the fact he led last time as the track favours horses who can gallop and jump due to the fences making it hard to make up ground in the home straight. Venetia knows what it takes and as said, there is a good chance the race will cut up to a single figure field.

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                          • Blood Destiny & Mister Policeman both a sea of blue on Oddschecker today. But no significant move on the exchanges for either.

                            Wonder if they've been put up somewhere?

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                            • Nick Rockett is a bigger NRNB price at 16/1 with WH & 888 that he is for the Turners with PP (14/1)
                              20/1 available too

                              Interesting each way play? Expecting the race to cut up .... the short PP price suggests it's more of an option and added security at a bigger price if he didn't run, would he be 16s?

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                              • Originally posted by Runragged View Post

                                One novice not mentioned for the Turners is the unbeaten Djelo who I think is great value at 25/1. Been comparisons with L'Homme Presse though I think Djelo is a bit speedier hence why I think Turners rather than BANC. Young, consistent horse who is a grade 2 winner last time. Like the fact he led last time as the track favours horses who can gallop and jump due to the fences making it hard to make up ground in the home straight. Venetia knows what it takes and as said, there is a good chance the race will cut up to a single figure field.
                                Not a bad shout with Djelo RR.

                                I really liked his run last time at Ascot, he is another who just goes and attacks his fences from flag fall. If I recall correctly I don’t remember there being any concerns/mistakes with his jumping either. He looked the winner a long long way from home that day

                                I’d imagine the Grade 1 at Sandown will be on the cards for him stepping up to Grade 1 company for the first time. If no Irish come over he may not have a lot on his hands from the UK.
                                Last edited by Craigy14; 4 January 2024, 02:42 PM.

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