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  • Every right to go for the BANC on what he's produced thus far. Easily as good a level as what The Real Whacker showed at this time last year yeah ?
    Last edited by Lobos; 16 December 2023, 07:18 PM.

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    • Knappers Hill probably out for the season.

      Hermes Allen going to Kempton for Kauto now rather than Ascot.

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      • Originally posted by Bonjers View Post
        Knappers Hill probably out for the season.

        Hermes Allen going to Kempton for Kauto now rather than Ascot.
        I’d lost hope in my Kauto Star 2023 + King George 2024 bet but fingers crossed now!

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        • 16/1 is probably a fair price for Broadway Boy for the BANC. Not sure he is quite good enough to win it from what I have seen and currently lacks real graded racing experience (Stepped up to a grade 3 handicap, the highest grade he has raced) so has plenty to prove when taking on more than one graded class horse in a genuine graded race. He would have a better chance in the NHC but then you could say that about a lot of the BANC horses if competing at a lower grade. As a trend follower as well then will always have nagging doubts as a 6yo in the race for the reasons previously been mentioned.

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          • Originally posted by Sprinter Sacre View Post

            I’d lost hope in my Kauto Star 2023 + King George 2024 bet but fingers crossed now!
            Did the same as you this time last year

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            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

              Did the same as you this time last year
              Nice! 40/1?

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              • Originally posted by Sprinter Sacre View Post

                I’d lost hope in my Kauto Star 2023 + King George 2024 bet but fingers crossed now!
                Was about to mention that as I have the same

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                • Originally posted by Sprinter Sacre View Post

                  Nice! 40/1?
                  That’s the one! I remember there being a BANC version too for a little more but I didn’t fancy him to stay up the hill over 3m.

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                  • Ella McNeil confirms Three Card Brag to be aimed at the National Hunt Chase (no big surprise). I assume Salvador Ziggy will go. Will Elliott send a third in Favori de Champdou, or will he be aimed at the staying handicaps in Ireland or the BANC?

                    Which amateurs will he use without Codd - Rob James? Swans been riding the bumper horses but they may want more experience than him. O'Neill and Hamilton have rode Samcro in the p2ps. O'Connor may not have a McManus ride so could be called in.

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                    • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                      Ella McNeil confirms Three Card Brag to be aimed at the National Hunt Chase (no big surprise). I assume Salvador Ziggy will go. Will Elliott send a third in Favori de Champdou, or will he be aimed at the staying handicaps in Ireland or the BANC?

                      Which amateurs will he use without Codd - Rob James? Swans been riding the bumper horses but they may want more experience than him. O'Neill and Hamilton have rode Samcro in the p2ps. O'Connor may not have a McManus ride so could be called in.
                      I'd be interested in if he gets John Gleeson jocked up on one, hes the best of the young amateurs atm imo

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                      • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post

                        I'd be interested in if he gets John Gleeson jocked up on one, hes the best of the young amateurs atm imo
                        Only raced in 2 chases in the UK and Ireland though according to RP in last 5 seasons. Doubt he's got the experience for this.

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                        • It’s not my bag but Three Card Brag is a must have for anyone building a book. He’s a big dour yoke races behind the bridle & needs every yard of 3m6f.


                          Gordon will be struggling for top amateur jocks at this stage with Ziggy, FDC & this fella all being targeted at the race. Cullentra NHC & XC double should be a safe double!
                          Last edited by SeanRock; 17 December 2023, 10:16 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                            Ella McNeil confirms Three Card Brag to be aimed at the National Hunt Chase (no big surprise). I assume Salvador Ziggy will go. Will Elliott send a third in Favori de Champdou, or will he be aimed at the staying handicaps in Ireland or the BANC?

                            Which amateurs will he use without Codd - Rob James? Swans been riding the bumper horses but they may want more experience than him. O'Neill and Hamilton have rode Samcro in the p2ps. O'Connor may not have a McManus ride so could be called in.
                            Inevitably TCB into favourite on this quote. I think I'll wait till he's qualified before I consider him at his new price.

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                            • I'm a bit surprised, I was told they'd be going the same route Gerri Colombe went from this point




                              The related double with Corbetts Cross needs considering at 120/1


                              Three Card Brag (NH Chase)
                              Corbetts Cross (BANC)

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                              • just a note on jockeys for the NH CHASE


                                Jockeys
                                • All jockeys riding in the National Hunt Chase must have ridden a minimum of 20 times and achieved at least five winners over fences.
                                • All qualifying rides must have come in races staged under Rules (i.e. excluding point-to-point races).

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