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2024 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post

    Looks a lovely scopey horse. He'll learn from that.
    Just as he was tanking into it

    Frustrating

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    • Mullins seems to be very confident in FTF ability going novice chasing. Do most expect him to stay at mid distance trips this season?

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      • Any news on well being of corbetts cross or potential plans/targets. All gone quiet

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        • I’ve not seen race, but has he suffered an over reach? Is he injured?

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          • Originally posted by FredFlintstone View Post
            Mullins seems to be very confident in FTF ability going novice chasing. Do most expect him to stay at mid distance trips this season?
            I've got stuck into him for the Turners. I feel he'll be perfect for that trip and Willie has more 3 milers to fill the BANC.

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            • He’s just stumbled after landing hasn’t he? Doesn’t look like he’s had an overreach. Jumped and travelled well up until that point. Not sure if back him for anything at the moment, mind

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              • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
                He’s just stumbled after landing hasn’t he? Doesn’t look like he’s had an overreach. Jumped and travelled well up until that point. Not sure if back him for anything at the moment, mind
                If anyone has backed him, you probably wouldn't want to cash out on the back of that. Conversely, if you haven't, then you probably would want to see him complete before doing so.

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                • ….Hills have cut ADV to 3-1 Mares Chase but she remains at 5-1 in their TWAR market.

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                  • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                    I've got stuck into him for the Turners. I feel he'll be perfect for that trip and Willie has more 3 milers to fill the BANC.
                    I agree with this but he keeps using the term ‘staying chaser’ to describe him but doesn’t reference the BA. I’m not quite sure how to interpret this. What do you think?

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                    • Originally posted by Cheltenham Novice Chase View Post

                      I agree with this but he keeps using the term ‘staying chaser’ to describe him but doesn’t reference the BA. I’m not quite sure how to interpret this. What do you think?
                      I’m sure at some point Willie would have described Galopin as a Staying Chaser before his Chase debut and programmed his season around the Turners. I’ve only backed Fact to File for the Turners as I think they hold him in very high regard and with it being his first season over any obstacles I can’t see them bottoming him out most season over 3 miles

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                      • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
                        He’s just stumbled after landing hasn’t he? Doesn’t look like he’s had an overreach. Jumped and travelled well up until that point. Not sure if back him for anything at the moment, mind
                        No rush really

                        If I wasn't already on I'd be waiting for him to be declared to run again before getting involved

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                        • Originally posted by BookieBasher View Post

                          I’m sure at some point Willie would have described Galopin as a Staying Chaser before his Chase debut and programmed his season around the Turners. I’ve only backed Fact to File for the Turners as I think they hold him in very high regard and with it being his first season over any obstacles I can’t see them bottoming him out most season over 3 miles
                          Looking back over previous champion bumpers, it isn't very common for any horse that finished in the top 2 to require three miles the following season, the vast majority were supreme/ballymore types the following year.

                          So despite him being bred to get further, and racing like he wants a bit further, it would still seem a bit hasty to be sending the second best 2m bumper horse over 3m right away. He's still inexperienced and with time he may start travelling on the bridle a bit better, which would make a step up to 3m unnecessary.

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                          • Originally posted by riccirich View Post

                            Looking back over previous champion bumpers, it isn't very common for any horse that finished in the top 2 to require three miles the following season, the vast majority were supreme/ballymore types the following year.

                            So despite him being bred to get further, and racing like he wants a bit further, it would still seem a bit hasty to be sending the second best 2m bumper horse over 3m right away. He's still inexperienced and with time he may start travelling on the bridle a bit better, which would make a step up to 3m unnecessary.
                            The counter to this would be that the only horse to tread this route for Willie, and skip a novice hurdle campaign, did step up to 3 miles.

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                            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                              The counter to this would be that the only horse to tread this route for Willie, and skip a novice hurdle campaign, did step up to 3 miles.
                              Absolutely this. Willie is a creature of habit.

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                              • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                                The counter to this would be that the only horse to tread this route for Willie, and skip a novice hurdle campaign, did step up to 3 miles.
                                That's definitely an important point and he may very well have it all mapped out now to follow that same route with fact to file, my one worry with that would be that it was so long ago that it's a bit harder to take that as a good guide compared to if it was something he'd done in the past few years.

                                The late 90s were vastly different times for Mullins yard compared to now when it comes to firepower. Back then he would have had a small amount of runners good enough to travel, and would have been thinking "which race gives this horse the best chance of winning". Whereas now it's a lot more complicated trying to separate all his runners, and my point would be that it's fairly rare that a champion bumper 2nd NEEDS three miles the following season, so if he has other runners for the BANC I don't think FTF would have any problem with the turners, and possibly even the arkle depending how well he jumps.

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